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Apart from one occasion I have come across from the 2010 spring gala, the NYMR's turntable is not used.
Does anyone know why it isn't utilised in day to day service?

Many thanks, JJD

blackout60800 wrote:Apart from one occasion I have come across from the 2010 spring gala, the NYMR's turntable is not used.
Does anyone know why it isn't utilised in day to day service?

Many thanks, JJD

1. There isn't any means to turn locos at Grosmont or Whitby.
2. It would take too much time.
3. It is supposed to be used to turn stock to even tyre wear.

Sawdust.

To continue Sawdusts list:

4: It is often occupied by either the DMU or carriages/wagons undergoing restoration.
5: I know that a few locos on the NYMR are too big to be turned without uncoupling the tender first (60007, 92214, and possibly 63395)

It was used during the 175th Anniversary Gala in May of last year, to turn Rocket, and has been used to turn the odd loco on Pickering-New bridge/Levisham shuttle duty.

Assume theres a lot of tender first running then ?

A fair amount, yes, but it's a common practise on heritage lines in the UK.

I can't actually think of any heritage lines where NO trains run tender first (Aside from the North Bay Railway in Scarbrough, and lines with no tender locos).

Thanks for the info. I wasn't even sure if it could actually be turned (evidently post 2010), as I have never seen it to asses it for myself as there has always been teaks in the way. I'm surprised to hear that 60007 would have to her tender disconnected, as in the 2010 clip the black five fits easily onto it.

Also used as access to a number of sidings.

There is talk that, if the triangle at Norton Fitzwarren is be completed in time, the West Somerset Railway Spring Steam Gala could be the first Gala where all locomotives run chimney first.

Curious - how much room do you need for a turning triangle , to turn engine only , say base and height lengths ?

From memory Pickering Turntable came from york shed/museum and was extended from 50ft to 55ft when installed at Pickering. It does get used occasionaly, for tyre wear etc as has been said, but anything much bigger than a black 5 requires the tender splitting.

J.P.

The pit was made larger not the table itself. On the subject of a turning triangle, go on Google earth and look at York's next to the station. This will give you some idea of the room required.

lnerjp wrote:From memory Pickering Turntable came from york shed/museum and was extended from 50ft to 55ft when installed at Pickering. It does get used occasionaly, for tyre wear etc as has been said, but anything much bigger than a black 5 requires the tender splitting.

J.P.

It is a sixty foot table.

Sawdust.

Thanks for the correction.

J.P.

Didn't Doncaster MPD use a triangle until about 1962? I seem to remember loco's disappearing off at the north east side of the shed buildings.