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Coal in rubbish out Blyth

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:32 pm
by 52D
I have just replied to a post by Bryan regarding Newsham and an earlier post regarding the location of a snow plough at Blyth. In my post i noted a Tramway on a map running from a NER siding down the backs of three rows of terraced houses. I wonder if this is a similar system to what was used at Ashington for delivering coal and collecting rubbish. If it was does any one know anything about the system and were locos used.

http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/006635FS.htm

Look on top left hand corner its marked Tramway.

Re: Coal in rubbish out Blyth

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:23 am
by third-rail
52D wrote:I have just replied to a post by Bryan regarding Newsham and an earlier post regarding the location of a snow plough at Blyth. In my post i noted a Tramway on a map running from a NER siding down the backs of three rows of terraced houses. I wonder if this is a similar system to what was used at Ashington for delivering coal and collecting rubbish. If it was does any one know anything about the system and were locos used.

http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/006635FS.htm

Look on top left hand corner its marked Tramway.
ithink the trmways where used at night mainly to empty the netties [ a rather smelly job]possibly the wagons /tubs drawn by pit ponys, as they would be pit houses.dont know about delivering coal,i think there is a book on the ashington system which covered a large area

Re: Coal in rubbish out Blyth

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:17 am
by 52D
A quick update, the narrow gauge was definitely used for coal delivery and for removing night spoil and rubbish. Two systems seem to have escaped being recorded Blyth and Seaton the other better known system at Ashington has been recorded and photographs exist of it in use.
The person who is updating the Industrial Railway Societys Handbook for Northumberland was unaware of the Blyth & Seaton systems.
Next question any info & pics.

Re: Coal in rubbish out Blyth

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:34 pm
by hhodgetts
Is this what the tramway would have looked like? I have not seen images of the one at Ashington.

Re: Coal in rubbish out Blyth

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:51 pm
by 52D
Excellent is that Blyth if it is what street is it, a good find. Im going out soon but will mail you tomorrow.

Re: Coal in rubbish out Blyth

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:21 pm
by third-rail
52D wrote:Excellent is that Blyth if it is what street is it, a good find. Im going out soon but will mail you tomorrow.
i do not think it is blyth it is to hilly [as my driving instructor said the nearest thing to do a hill start in blyth is a bridge over a rail line].and i do not think ashington is much better for hills it looks to me that could be pit tubs as there is a rope haulage cable in in view by the rail lines ,also see the woman just looking out of the backyard,what may identify the location maybe the soil/ash doors as most of them where square most unusual to find them arched.

Re: Coal in rubbish out Blyth

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:59 am
by hhodgetts
No it is not Blyth. I do not know where it is. I was just asking if the small tramway at Blyth would have been 'like' the one in this image, i.e. horse drawn tubs at the rear of houses.

Re: Coal in rubbish out Blyth

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:26 am
by 52D
The other possibility is Seaton although i havent seen a map of the location.

Re: Coal in rubbish out Blyth

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:03 pm
by Mickey
Sorry i put that observation of NER steam on this posting. Micky NER/L.N.E.R.

Re: Coal in rubbish out Blyth

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:15 pm
by Bryan
It looks like the street itself is on a fair gradient.
To me that would rule out the Blyth area.

Re: Coal in rubbish out Blyth

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:23 pm
by third-rail
hhodgetts wrote:Is this what the tramway would have looked like? I have not seen images of the one at Ashington.
was at shildon to day came across this picture on the wall of hackforths house it was labeled hamsterly village co durham

Re: Coal in rubbish out Blyth

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:55 pm
by StevieG
third-rail wrote:
hhodgetts wrote:Is this what the tramway would have looked like? I have not seen images of the one at Ashington.
was at shildon to day came across this picture on the wall of hackforths house it was labeled hamsterly village co durham
Hi third-rail,
Is the 'hamsterly' picture supposed to be accessible here?

Re: Coal in rubbish out Blyth

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:50 pm
by third-rail
sorry goto hhodgetts quote and the picture attachment with it

Re: Coal in rubbish out Blyth

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:49 pm
by StevieG
Sorry. Misunderstood the meaning somehow. Now can't see how.
Thanks for putting me straight.

Re: Coal in rubbish out Blyth

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:59 pm
by 52D
Hi guys an update from Ken Hedley former Blyth driver.

Hi George,, This system did exist for the purpose of delivering workmens coal to the mining community of Cowpen Colliery.
It was horse drawn and ran in a circular route the colliery rows
It was removed when the houses were demolished in the 1950s.
I remember it very well as pre 1935 I lived close by and used to play trains on it. Ah happy days.
Ken

Any more anecdotes gratefully received.