The LNER Encyclopedia

De Agostini have brought out a new series of books about railways. If you look at https://www.deagostini.com/uk/collectio ... -railways/ and then click on 'VIEW ISSUE'' and turn to page 55, you can see an LNER coach in 1939 that has horizontal graining on the upper lower panels but vertical graining on the lower panels. This means that the graining on the Hornby suburbans is incorrect.

Those were the days when you could stick your head out of the window despite there being bars supposedly preventing you from doing so.

Yes but this picture is a Great Eastern Railway design carriage in LNER livery not an LNER suburban.

Trestrol wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:41 am Yes but this picture is a Great Eastern Railway design carriage in LNER livery not an LNER suburban.

That's what I thought to, it's not a Gresley/Great Northern vehicle. Rather something pre-grouping.

It is clearly an ex-GER suburban carriage (note the bars across the door droplights) and probably one used in the 1939 evacuations. It is more interesting in that it confirms use of the varnished teak finish rather than the teak-brown paint on suburban stock that is at least 26 years old. The graining is exactly as the GER oriented its panels.

Gresley teak-panelled carriages had the panel grain running horizontally below the waist line and vertically above it and on the ends. The cornice rail above the windows and the ventilators at the top of the doors had the grain running horizontally.

Thanks all for pointing things out. I bow to your superior knowledge. Just thought I'd post it as there's not many photos of these coaches around.

65447 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:52 pm It is clearly an ex-GER suburban carriage (note the bars across the door droplights) and probably one used in the 1939 evacuations. It is more interesting in that it confirms use of the varnished teak finish rather than the teak-brown paint on suburban stock that is at least 26 years old.

It could just as easily be a Sunday School outing from the 1920s.

billbedford wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:59 pm

65447 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:52 pm It is clearly an ex-GER suburban carriage (note the bars across the door droplights) and probably one used in the 1939 evacuations. It is more interesting in that it confirms use of the varnished teak finish rather than the teak-brown paint on suburban stock that is at least 26 years old.

It could just as easily be a Sunday School outing from the 1920s.

Except the children's mode of dress and hairstyles are not from that decade, nor are the SMOKING signs in the carriage windows, and several of the children are wearing the tags that identify them and their transit details.