Britain's first 0-8-0

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Britain's first 0-8-0

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I know about Britain's second 0-8-0 - first of a quartet intended for the Swedish & Norwegian Railway picked up at a bargain price by the Barry Rly, built by Sharp Stewart in 1886.

But what about the first? I believe it was built in 1847 or thereabouts and wasn't an outstanding success. It should be buried somewhere in the Baxter "British Locomotive Catalogue 1825-1923" series, but I haven't found it. Can anyone shed more light?

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Re: Britain's first 0-8-0

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G'day Gents

Didn't Mr Sturrock, bring out a 0-8-0T for the GNR in the 1860's, and IIRC, it had condensing gear to.

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Re: Britain's first 0-8-0

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So far as I know the first 0-8-0s were William Hedley & Timithy Hackworth's Puffing Billy and Wylam Dilly.

Both were originaly built as 0-4-0s in 1813/4 but they were too heavy and broke the rails
In 1815? they were rebuilt as 0-8-0s and as the quaility of the rails improved they were rebuilt back to 0-4-0s around 1830.

Both have been preserved.

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Re: Britain's first 0-8-0

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manna wrote:G'day Gents

Didn't Mr Sturrock, bring out a 0-8-0T for the GNR in the 1860's, and IIRC, it had condensing gear to.

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Yes. Two 0-8-0Ts were built in 1866 by Avonside of Bristol. Although ordered by Sturrock, the design was based on a pair of 0-8-0Ts built for the Vale of Neath Railway a couple of years before.

The VoNR locomotives were used as bankers on the Aberdare line but only lasted seven years. The GNR locomotives had condensing gear as you say Manna and were for the Metropolitan lines. They caused too much damage to the track and were immediately prohibited from the Metropolitan lines and sent to Kings Cross goods yard as shunters until 1880 (a short working life).
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Re: Britain's first 0-8-0

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Many thanks for your replies. I was thinking of tender locos, but that information on the early tanks is a helpful supplement. I was unaware of the rebuilding of Puffing Billy and Wylam Dilly, so that is much appreciated. With approximate rebuilding dates of 1830 these must be the earliest. This still leaves the identity of my example built around 1847 that remains to be identified. It's buried somewhere in the Baxter series and if I discover it I'll post here, in case anyone else is interested in early 0-8-0s.

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