9F EVENING STAR

[WOOTANG]

quick question,

does anyone know where evening star was shedded when she was running the pines express would it of been bath green park or would it of been ran in from another local shed?.
also did th coaches of the train vary in number or was it a certain set of coaches that was always used?.

thanks

[Blink Bonny]

Ay up, Wootang!

Yes, the Star was indeed shedded at 82F (Bath Green Park), on loan from Cardiff I believe although she did carry the 82F 'plate. She also came back again in '63 after overhaul at Eastleigh with the full width footstep under the smokebox door and green cylinders.

As for the Pines, yes it was a fixed rake although the make up of the set varied over the years. For example, in 1952 the Pines got the ex-Royal Scot set which gave it an almost obscenely tidy appearance with a full set of carmine and cream Stanier coaches! Over the years, various vehicles were replaced until the Pines started to get Mk1s in the mid-50s. Strengtheners were added at various times as and when required.

Incidentally, I do wonder if there was an edict on the LMS that if two identically styled coaches were ever found coupled together in a rake, then steps must be taken to rectify this situation immediately!

[WOOTANG]

blink bonny,

thanks for that infomation, i can now use it to complete the trains formation

[Blink Bonny]

Ay up Wootang.

The Ivo Peters " S & D in the '60s" has an excellent picture of the train re-starting near Cole in which every single coach can be identified as to type.

I'll get my magnifier. And a dribble tray.

[WOOTANG]

mr blink bonny,

thats very appricieated but i may have that book somwhere so ill have a look around on the shelfs and see if its there,
but thank you anyway

[Blink Bonny]

Ay up!

Let me know if you can't, Wootang. Magnifier and dribble tray on stand-by!

[WOOTANG]

mr blink bonny

unfortunately i cant seem to find the book so if you can do your magic with the magnifier it would be much appriciated

thanks

[Blink Bonny]

Ay up, Wootang!

Brace yerself - the info will be headed your way tomorrow at some point.

[WOOTANG]

blink bonny it is really helpful thanks

[Blink Bonny]

Ay up!

OK, here we go. All coaches lined maroon unless otherwise stated.

Northbound 8/9/1962

92220 "Evening Star". Blue headboard, LH lamp v grubby, RH lamp clean.
Mk1 BSK
Mk1 CK
Gresley TK
Mk1 BSK
Mk1 SK
Mk1 TSO / SO (?) - Diner
Mk1 RKF - Kitchen car
Mk1 FO - Diner
Mk1 CK
Mk1 BCK
Mk1 SK (WR Choc / Cream)
Mk1 SK

Southbound Train 8/9/1962

92220 "Evening Star". Same headboard and lamps. Reporting number carried on black disc (1095). Pine wreath after Evercreech Junction.
Gresley SK
Gresley SK
M1 BCK
Mk1 SK
Mk1 SK
Mk1 BSK
Mk1 CK
Mk1 BSK

There are also 4 more unidentified coaches which are hiding behind a signal gantry . I would surmise that they are the dining car 3-car set outlined above plus A N Other.

Hope this is what you're after, Wootang. Are you another S&D modeller coming out of the closet?

[Blink Bonny]

Ay up, Wootang.

U seen this?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PINES-EXPRESS ... 2309202c3d