adolf
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Its good to know where you stand. Saves making a fool of yourself later......
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There must be something about people born in April which makes them destructive and unable to compromise mustn't there?mr B wrote:just thinking to-day 20th April would have been Hitlers birthday ...
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21 April 2013 would've been Beeching's 100th
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I wouldn't dare mention that to the missus, she being an Aries April baby and me being a gentle, harmonius October Libra type.Mr Bunt wrote:There must be something about people born in April which makes them destructive and unable to compromise mustn't there?mr B wrote:just thinking to-day 20th April would have been Hitlers birthday ...
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21 April 2013 would've been Beeching's 100th
Maybe it's to do with Mars being the 'bringer of war' the ruling planet for Aries; according to Gustav Holst's The Planets Suite.
Re: adolf
And it's a myth;Mr Bunt wrote:I think you'll find that was Mussolini actually.Micky wrote:Wot did they use to say about old Adolf and the Nazi's they use to keep there trains running on time no matter wot else they got wrong!.
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Re: adolf
Afternoon all
My father was a born in April, and whilst he was a great father to me, he was one awkward, argumentative, difficult person. We clashed all the time, as he did with his father.
Earlswood Nob
My father was a born in April, and whilst he was a great father to me, he was one awkward, argumentative, difficult person. We clashed all the time, as he did with his father.
Earlswood Nob
Re: Adolf ( ITMA ) & Mussolini running trains on time
Hello All,
Mussolini allegedly did improve on time running by the simple expedient of stretching out the running times which will generally result in better time keeping , having said that , it is also correct that Mussoloini's claim is mythical, as a previous contributor indicated.
This raises the question of how you define on time running. For example, in Australia it used to be on time to 3 minutes, plus or minus 30 seconds. For example, 2 minutes 14 seconds is 2 minutes; 2 minutes 30 seconds is 2 1/2 minutes; 2 minutes 45 seconds is 3 minutes. In an age when analogue clocks were the norm, railway clocks had a sweeping second hand, so the + or - 30 seconds was a sensible measure.
In the US, the ICC defined on time to 5 minutes, + / - 30 seconds, per 100 miles, so transcontinental service of say 2,000 miles, so a train could complete that journey with an actual arrival time of 100 minutes /1 hr 40 mins late, and statistically still be on time.
Airlines can blame either the weather, headwinds or tailwinds for schedule variations.
Now in the age of privatisation with heavy taxpayer subsidy, and digital clocks that tick over by the second, on time running is now 4minutes 59 seconds !
The other definition worth considering is Arrival Time, from a Signalman's point of view, especially in large Panel Boxes where you observe the track circuits going down, arrival time is when all the platform circuits are down.. From the Platform staff's perspective, it is when the train has stopped. From the passengers perspective, it is when the doors have opened and they can alight. The difference between these viewpoints can be between 30 and 60 seconds, which might not seem much, but added up over an 18 hour day, and the cumulative difference can be measured in hours.
( From the computer's systems generated reports, it is when it passes a defined timing point, and this varies at each location, and within any large location, due to the reporting point having to be consistent with a wide number of other parameters, which will differ in practice for each timing point. )
Regards, Platypus
Mussolini allegedly did improve on time running by the simple expedient of stretching out the running times which will generally result in better time keeping , having said that , it is also correct that Mussoloini's claim is mythical, as a previous contributor indicated.
This raises the question of how you define on time running. For example, in Australia it used to be on time to 3 minutes, plus or minus 30 seconds. For example, 2 minutes 14 seconds is 2 minutes; 2 minutes 30 seconds is 2 1/2 minutes; 2 minutes 45 seconds is 3 minutes. In an age when analogue clocks were the norm, railway clocks had a sweeping second hand, so the + or - 30 seconds was a sensible measure.
In the US, the ICC defined on time to 5 minutes, + / - 30 seconds, per 100 miles, so transcontinental service of say 2,000 miles, so a train could complete that journey with an actual arrival time of 100 minutes /1 hr 40 mins late, and statistically still be on time.
Airlines can blame either the weather, headwinds or tailwinds for schedule variations.
Now in the age of privatisation with heavy taxpayer subsidy, and digital clocks that tick over by the second, on time running is now 4minutes 59 seconds !
The other definition worth considering is Arrival Time, from a Signalman's point of view, especially in large Panel Boxes where you observe the track circuits going down, arrival time is when all the platform circuits are down.. From the Platform staff's perspective, it is when the train has stopped. From the passengers perspective, it is when the doors have opened and they can alight. The difference between these viewpoints can be between 30 and 60 seconds, which might not seem much, but added up over an 18 hour day, and the cumulative difference can be measured in hours.
( From the computer's systems generated reports, it is when it passes a defined timing point, and this varies at each location, and within any large location, due to the reporting point having to be consistent with a wide number of other parameters, which will differ in practice for each timing point. )
Regards, Platypus
Re: adolf
Adolf having a mug of tea in the fuehrer bunker.
"Cor blimey corporal there's no sugar in me tea!. This is wot da Englanders call a nice drop of rosy lee?"
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/eng ... d155122632
"Cor blimey corporal there's no sugar in me tea!. This is wot da Englanders call a nice drop of rosy lee?"
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/eng ... d155122632
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