Carbon monoxide poisoning from a 3D printer

[Kestrel]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... inter.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/bluesky/o ... story.html

[Blink Bonny]

Ay up!

CO poisoning nearly finished me age 16 so this just cements my dislike of them......

[richard]

There are different kinds of 3d printer - there's some doubt as to whether that was the cause. Most low end (ie. home) 3d printers melt plastic and don't use a laser.

[billbedford]

I have not heard of any plastic that degrades to produce Carbon Monoxide.

It is difficult to see how any printer or laser cutter that was small enough to use at home could produce enough CO to flood an apartment.

[Nova]

Ay up!

CO poisoning nearly finished me age 16 so this just cements my dislike of them......

There is NOTHING in the 3D printed process, whether PLA or SLA, that emits any level of CO. Honestly you're more at risk passively breathing in MEKPAK vapours than you are using a 3d printer.

PLA (Polylactic acid or polylactide): A filament is melted by a hot nozzle and extruded onto the printbed one layer at a time. Once the PLA cools, it hardens and forms your 3D printed object according to the design file that the 3D printer is creating. FDM printers typically use one of two materials, PLA, or ABS (Acrylonitrile Butadiene Styrene).

SLA (Stereolithography) uses liquid resins and UV light to create 3D printed objects.

if you're going to dislike 3d printers you may as well stop using plastic and resin for modelling because they carry the same risks.

this is a case of misinformed journalism bordering on deliberate demonisation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF-N2kNpWKQ

and it's not the first time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qggN_RJdUsc


I dare say it's bordering on exploiting the tragic deaths of individuals, and the uninformed public, to push technophobic/anti-3D Printing propaganda

[richard]

Are we reaching the point where we need to ban links to Daily Mail articles? They do have the occasional "old railway station for sale" stories, but everything else is junk to put it politely.

[65447]

Are we reaching the point where we need to ban links to Daily Mail articles? They do have the occasional "old railway station for sale" stories, but everything else is junk to put it politely.

That surely would be censorship in the extreme, given that, love it or hate it, the Daily Mail/Mail on Sunday titles form the largest selling national newspaper in the UK by a wide margin: http://www.statista.com/statistics/2460 ... in-the-uk/

Better than either (1) forum members think twice before posting such links to ANY source and/or (2) you create a thread in this area titled 'Ripleys'...

[Mickey]

I've never really liked gas that much I prefer electric.

One reason that I don't like gas is because of the possible risk of dying in one's sleep due to carbon monoxide poisoning another reason is the risk of an explosion!!.

Mickey

[Dave S]

Electrocution doesn't bother you then.....

[2392]

I've never really liked gas that much I prefer electric.

One reason that I don't like gas is because of the possible risk of dying in one's sleep due to carbon monoxide poisoning another reason is the risk of an explosion!!.

Mickey

Electrocution doesn't bother you then.....

Schocking !

[Kestrel]

Are we reaching the point where we need to ban links to Daily Mail articles? They do have the occasional "old railway station for sale" stories, but everything else is junk to put it politely.

Richard, are you attempting to quote a chap on your side of the pond, that it's FAKE NEWS?

[billbedford]

Are we reaching the point where we need to ban links to Daily Mail articles?

Wikipedia already has.

[65447]

Are we reaching the point where we need to ban links to Daily Mail articles?

Wikipedia already has.

But only because a bunch of contributors to Wikipedia ganged up and created false news by influencing Wikipedia - which this thread is now helping to propagate:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... genda.html

And yes I know it's a Daily Mail article but the story originated in the Grauniad. I'm no longer going to donate to support Wikipedia.

[richard]

Do you have a link to the Guardian making that claim? I notice the Daily Mail article that you reference, doesn't.

The closest I could find (admittedly without much of a search) was this:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... or-website

(which quotes the Daily Mail's response)

The thing is, the Daily Mail isn't a very reliable newspaper - see my comment above. Of the articles that get posted here, only the "old station up for sale" type articles seem to pass muster and the others are shown to be unreliable at best. Many of their other articles (which thankfully don't get posted here) are just a bunch of xenophobic tripe, to put it politely.
Yes the Guardian makes mistakes (yes, the masthead, 20+ yrs ago but embarrassing!) , and so does the Telegraph; but both still practice traditional journalism and generally own up to their mistakes which are much less frequent than the Daily Mail's.

There are issues with me banning it (mainly enforcement and slippery-slope type issues), but popularity of the paper is not one of them. Nor is "freedom of speech". The much vaunted "First Amendment" is simply not relevant. And the UK's unwritten equivalent isn't either.

[65447]

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... or-website (as you found)

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... rine-maher

At least the Daily Mail has the guts to challenge the liberal metropolitan agenda content found in some news media and it got the popular consensus for Brexit right. And my usual source is the Telegraph by the way. Polarised politics and the increasing censorship of or protest against opposing points of view is a very worrying trend. If this forum is to become a 'safe space' then I'm off.