"Train Station"?

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Who the Hell Started this?
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geofrancis wrote:Who the Hell Started this?
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PinzaC55 on the first page of this thread. :wink:
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Railway station? Train station?

So the language is changing. And unlike some changes, this one matters not a jot. The meaning remains clear.

Just get over it, you guys!

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kudu wrote:Railway station? Train station?

So the language is changing. And unlike some changes, this one matters not a jot. The meaning remains clear.

Just get over it, you guys!

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The symbol is now used to simply mark the location of railway stations (not underground).

Personally speaking, I have no problem with that. It is a symbol many foreigners (most of my family from abroad, at any rate) recognise as being related to trains. If it helps to identify for those not in the now, that's not a bad thing surely?
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Micky wrote:The trouble with it's continued use is that this 'iconic symbol' (BRITISH RAIL) i presume would mean less & less to each subsequent generation growing up, i presume anyone under the age of 25-30 nowadays this sign wouldn't mean anything to them??.
Maybe not in an historical context, but in the context of identifying "train" [sic] stations, then certainly it is extremely recognisable.

I'm 24 by the way and I'm not alone in recognising that symbol; accepted I have the advantage of knowing the history behind it, but so many of my friends who are not rail enthusiasts know the double arrow symbol means trains.

Its purpose and usage have changed from being a corporate image to being a generic symbol for train. Not a bad thing when it's so recognisable.
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Yeah very probably. :wink:

I've noticed nowadays (and for quite sometime probably?) that they actually refer to the 'railway network' as NATIONAL RAIL when they announce a 'station stop' over the trains pre-recorded message system at station stops on the London Underground nowadays.
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The double arrow symbol is still alive and well on the colonnade of Yorrk station.
Part of me hopes that someone, somewhere is keeping the double arrow because British Rail is coming back one day...........
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Ay up!

I know the "corporate image" period comes in for some stick these days, but it wasn't all bad. Some engines actually looked pretty good in rail blue - classes 47, 40 and 50 spring to mind. Some were visual disasters - classes 25, 31 and the Deltics for example!

What really did work was the arrow. OK, it could be translated as "we don't know wether we're coming or going" but as a piece of industial design it still cuts the mustard. Its simple, easy to reproduce in black and white, colour or 3D and instantly recognisable. Long may it continue!

The Germans still use the DB "keks" logo and the French their italic SNCF.
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To me it's a sad reminder to a once GREAT NATIONALIZED RAILWAY system 1948-1996.

To me it don't mean anything nowadays just a very sad reminder of how GREAT-

BRITISH RAILWAYS then later on BRITISH RAIL was great days great days :wink:
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Blink Bonny wrote:Ay up!

OK, it could be translated as "we don't know wether we're coming or going" but as a piece of industial design it still cuts the mustard. Its simple, easy to reproduce in black and white, colour or 3D and instantly recognisable. Long may it continue!
I agree. I think the 'undecided arrow' is a useful symbol for a railway station on maps and signs etc.

Didn't SeaLink use a right hand drive version for a time on the funnels of their ferries to the continent?
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Yeah i use to like the old BRITISH RAIL 'Inter City' sign BUT it's 'time has passed' it's a wonder that it's been kept alive on some Network Rail buildings in todays corporate image lead society to be honest?. :wink:

Especially a former sign like the old BRITISH RAIL 'Inter City' sign that was identified strongly with a 'Nationalised railway' all very strange??. :?
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you'll find the IC logo on every BR ticket you buy regardless of so called rail company's ,, so legaly binding you can go from A to B on any train ?

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