1. 61057 just missed being included in the 1950 ABC as she was condemned
17/04/1950, the ABC was correct to 31/08/1950. The only B1 to have an
accident and be withdrawn, she crashed into a goods train in fog at
Witham on her way to Liverpool Street
2. Old King Guthrum died in AD890, he and his son ruled in lower East Anglia
Queen Bodicca ruled in the same area in 90AD
3. Gipewiz was indeed called Ipswich at the time of the Domesday survey in
1086
I may have it but only on the most tenuous evidence.
Class: A1
Number: LNER Number 4474 BR number 60105
Engine Name: "Victor Wild"
The engine took part in inter-regional trials on the GWR (Standard gauge -not broad gauge) in 1925, the year Margaret Thatcher was born.
The questions still in my mind are; who exactly was Victor Wild? and who is the brother of an American comedian? I am afraid my knowledge of American comedians is woefully small. Help
Hehe, perhaps I've found a poser this time. My previous try was guessed very quickly by Colombo!
Different Prime Minister, and he's actually more famous for something else (which is what the easier clues alluded to - I'll add them later if it still poses difficult).
The GWR reference refers to a broad gauge engine or class that has a related name.
The comedian made quite a few films during the 1980s and was an early member of Saturday Night Live. Personally I don't think he's that funny, but I guess some people must do! This clue refers to a different member of the same class or type. I was covering myself because the name that I am looking for, may have been used for a different class.
At first I thought that I had it with GCR B3 Lloyd George, no. 1167. He was unpopular in some quarters, Harold Lloyd was an American Film stars in the silent movies, but his brother was called Gaylord! I had no clue about the GWR unless you were rhyming George with Gauge which seemed hardly likely. Your new clues have quite scuppered me.
So I have put my thinking cap on too.
The Duke of Wellington, Sir Arthur Wellesley, was an unpopular Prime Minister, but more famous for something else, i.e., the Peninsular War and victory at Waterloo. The Iron Duke Class of GWR Broad Gauge singles were named after him. The Lord of the Isles Class of GWR locomotives were not Broad Gauge, but looked similar to Iron Duke Class locos and could be confused. The Lord of the Isles was an LNER class K4 loco, no. 3444.
Okay, a couple of subtle clues (I have a real blatant one if necessary).
The unpopular Prime Minister is more famous for being a Field Marshall - and is/was a popular figure/hero in that light.
As a 'gauge' (simply a pun ) of his unpopularity, John Major's loss in 1997 was at the time reported as being the greatest Tory General Election defeat since this Prime Minister was kicked out!
Oh, and you're not necessarily looking for a *locomotive*
how long ago does one go, having brushed up on my 1997 history i think i know where to look but maybe well out so should we be before or after the iron duke?
(the 'giveaway' clue would have involved rubber boots and water closets)
Colombo: Sorry missed your comment about Saturday Night Live. He's also done some movies. I think most people in the UK will have heard of him. He was in "Three Amigos", "Caddyshack", "National Lampoon's Vacation" and a variety of other so-so US comedies from the 1980s.
As well as a comedian's name, it is the name of a town in Maryland, a neighbourhood in Washington DC, a ragtime tune, and an English ballard from Northumberland! (guess who just found Wikipedia for that list!).
It may have also been the name of a mailcoach, but I cannot find a specific reference in the RCTS book.
Like Simon, I am having a problem tying up all the clues to a particular locomotive, although you say that you are not looking for a particular locomotive.
For the class, you have given us enough clues and I think that most of us will have come up with Chevy Chase as the comedian. Chase=Hunt in my books so I presume that we are looking for a D49.
All your other clues lead me to the Duke of Wellington who, was a Tory PM. Whilst in opposition to Earl Grey in 1832, he suffered a defeat in trying to stop the Reform Bill, thus making himself very unpopular, and indeed, John Major's defeat in 1997 was reported as the Tory Party's biggest defeat since 1832.
So are we looking for a Hunt, or a Shire, the "brother" of a Hunt.
I shall take a libery and have two attempts;
The Percy, 62747. -- PM Spencer Perceval was assassinated in 1812, at a time when Wellington was winning in Spain.
Northumberland , 62733. -- Northumberland has a Duke.
If a shire then perhaps The Berkshire, this is the shire where the iron duke had his country house which was attacked by the angry workers after the reform bill problems in the 1830's.
When I said not necessarily a locomotive - I meant it could have been some other kind of propelled vehicle, like a railcar for example. I think the tenuous links are coming up because you are thinking of traditional locomotives.
Yes Chevy Chase is the comedian in question.
So a Wellesley/Wellington/Iron Duke type name with a related vehicle "Chevy Chase".
Yes this appears to have been too difficult - I was deliberately avoiding the Pacifics and the colourful 'Scotts'!
