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Signalboxes disappearing
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:52 pm
by Bryan
It seems that 2 boxes have to added to the list of closed and demolished.
Horsforth and Rigton boxes both on the Leeds - Harrogate line and covering the lines to either end of Bramhope tunnel have both been closed and demolished over the last week.
Taken possession in both boxes over the years.
Re: Signalboxes disappearing
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:22 am
by PinzaC55
Thats sad news. I could have sworn Rigton was listed?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pinzac55/3410417136/
Re: Signalboxes disappearing
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:23 am
by 60800
I keep meaning to get up to Brigg signal box to snap a few photos of that before they decide to get rid of it
Re: Signalboxes disappearing
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:47 pm
by Bryan
Listing means nothing other than an added bit of paperwork to deal with, especially if only grade 2 or lower. This might have the effect of deterring any work but do not rely on it.
Re: Signalboxes disappearing
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:52 am
by Mickey
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Re: Signalboxes disappearing
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:58 am
by thesignalman
PinzaC55 wrote:Thats sad news. I could have sworn Rigton was listed?
Not to my knowledge:
http://signalbox.org/last/listed.htm
An interesting loss from here was perhaps the mechanically-worked lifting barriers:
http://signalbox.org/last/crossings.php
John
Re: Signalboxes disappearing
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:16 pm
by thesignalman
Blackout60800 wrote:I keep meaning to get up to Brigg signal box to snap a few photos of that before they decide to get rid of it
No immediate rush, it isn't scheduled to be abolished until 2015 - but if you have an interest in seeing the last hydraulically-worked level crossing gates in the country you will need to hurry, as these will be replaced in April 2013.
John
Re: Signalboxes disappearing
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:12 pm
by giner
Micky wrote:Bryan wrote:
Listing means nothing other than an added bit of paperwork to deal with, especially if only grade 2 or lower. This might have the effect of deterring any work but do not rely on it.
There are a number of s/boxes that have become 'listed buildings' around the country nowadays and at the time that they became listed buildings it probably seemed like a good idea but several years later when these s/boxes are left surrounded in an 'alien enviroment' of colour light signals, track rationalization and sometimes even overhead live wires that wasn't there when the s/box existed it all looks a bit 'out of place' in keeping with the original purpose of these structures.
I think it's still a good idea to keep them. Applying the logic that they can be disposed of because they now sit in an 'alien environment', doesn't really wash. If that were the case we wouldn't have any castles, georgian houses, or anything much over a hundred years old. Let 'em stand.
Re: Signalboxes disappearing
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:26 pm
by Tom F
I wonder if it's simply down to a case that if left there might be the worry of vandalism if left abandoned.
Re: Signalboxes disappearing
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:37 pm
by Mickey
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Re: Signalboxes disappearing
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:34 pm
by giner
Very good point. I suppose that, unlike castles, which were built with such solidity that they're pretty difficult to vandalise to much degree, signalboxes are an easy target for the brain-dead. I'm not sure there is any way to prevent vandalism. What a world.
Re: Signalboxes disappearing
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:37 pm
by 60800
thesignalman wrote:Blackout60800 wrote:I keep meaning to get up to Brigg signal box to snap a few photos of that before they decide to get rid of it
No immediate rush, it isn't scheduled to be abolished until 2015 - but if you have an interest in seeing the last hydraulically-worked level crossing gates in the country you will need to hurry, as these will be replaced in April 2013.
John
Going to Caistor tomorrow so I will definitely take the Brigg route and stop to snap the gates and signal box together
Re: Signalboxes disappearing
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:04 pm
by micknich2003
How many Hydralic worked Level Crossings were there on the LNER? I only know of two, Walton Street Hull, the first instalation of summer 1934 and pressumably, the first to go in early December 1963. The other was Lincoln, instalation date unkown to me, replaced a few years ago. Walton Street was the first UK instalation of road traffic lights at a railway level crossing. Mick.
Re: Signalboxes disappearing
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:08 pm
by R. pike
Re: Signalboxes disappearing
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:03 pm
by micknich2003
A few pictures of Walton Street, same Gate Controller, and also Disengager for Gate Wheel etc. Mick.