GCR - Quainton Road Junction signal box

[stockton39]

Can anyone shed light on the varying locations of Quainton Road Junction signal box and track layout?
In 1897 it was situated between the two sets of tracks, see:.
prints.leics.gov.uk/signal_box_at_quainton_road_junction_buckinghamshire/print/671659.html.
Then the 1899 OS map positions it on the right of the four tracks between the signal post and the junction.
It then appears on the left side of four tracks with the loco on a left hand curve, see:
nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/etexts/Gov14_07Rail/Gov14_07Rail023a.jpg
Followed by later photos with it on the left side of the four tracks, with the train on a right hand curve . http://www.time-capsules.co.uk/picture/number2372.asp
Very confusing!

[Mickey]

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[R. pike]

Can anyone shed light on the varying locations of Quainton Road Junction signal box and track layout?
In 1897 it was situated between the two sets of tracks, see:.
prints.leics.gov.uk/signal_box_at_quainton_road_junction_buckinghamshire/print/671659.html.
Then the 1899 OS map positions it on the right of the four tracks between the signal post and the junction.
It then appears on the left side of four tracks with the loco on a left hand curve, see:
nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/etexts/Gov14_07Rail/Gov14_07Rail023a.jpg
Followed by later photos with it on the left side of the four tracks, with the train on a right hand curve . http://www.time-capsules.co.uk/picture/number2372.asp
Very confusing!

Another line of enquiry to persue.. I will suggest that in the last photo there is no signalbox and the junction is controlled from Quainton Road box.

Edit to add a diagram from John Hinson's most excellent Signalbox website..

http://signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=121

[Tony]

For what it's worth:
From Clive Foxell's books about the Met, the Met did a major upgrade of the old Aylesbury & Buckingham Railway when they assumed control of the line and prior to the arrival of the Great Central. Track was upgraded and the old Quainton Road station was relocated further south to its present site. The earlier station had been approached from the west by the Wotton Tramway via an inconvenient turntable just south of the original station.
No sign of where the original signal box was then.
A new signal box was built for the relocated station, sited between the familiar lattice-iron passenger footbridge at the north end of the new station the new road bridge just to the north of the station. The bridge replaced an earlier level-crossing as part of the Met upgrade.
The later-still signal box was re-sited, of course, to the present position at the south end of the station, except that the original Met box burnt down (arson?) after closure of the line to regular passenger traffic and a 'foreign box' was brought in to replace it in preservation days.

[thesignalman]

Can anyone shed light on the varying locations of Quainton Road Junction signal box and track layout?
In 1897 it was situated between the two sets of tracks, see:.
prints.leics.gov.uk/signal_box_at_quainton_road_junction_buckinghamshire/print/671659.html.
Then the 1899 OS map positions it on the right of the four tracks between the signal post and the junction.
It then appears on the left side of four tracks with the loco on a left hand curve, see:
nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/etexts/Gov14_07Rail/Gov14_07Rail023a.jpg
Followed by later photos with it on the left side of the four tracks, with the train on a right hand curve . http://www.time-capsules.co.uk/picture/number2372.asp
Very confusing!

To my knowledge, there has only been one box at Quainton Road Junction (Quainton Junction on some early documents).

This is the box seen in the first link above:
http://prints.leics.gov.uk/signal_box_a ... 71659.html
I think this is a view taken before commissioning and that the new line is not yet laid in.

It opened in 1898 and closed in 1922. The structure in the other images is not a signal box, the junction was motor-operated from the station box after 1922, as has been said.

Interestingly, this box later migrated to Nottinghamshire in 1944 to become the most northerly outpost of the Met(!). It replaced a GNR box at Nuthall Sidings that had slowly subsided so much with coal workings to a point that the rails were level with the box windows! This suggests the box remained at Quainton Road for 22 years after abolition.

John

[R. pike]

I saw this and thought of this thread, Ignore the caption however..

http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/pho ... t&item=680

[Bryan]

As said ignore the caption.

Since when has an AWS been positioned in the middle of S+C?
It looks more like a protective ramp for the rodding cranks.

[meldrum]

Quite right Bryan, these are hinged covers for access to the FPLs on the switch diamonds. Shame on the NRM for getting that wrong (but somehow not surprised).

[R. pike]

I'm not entirely sure where this is yet. I'm leaning towards Grendon Underwood Junction now. It's certainly a very interesting picture showing an early switch diamond with external fouling bars.