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Forward - the LNER's plans in 1946
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:10 pm
by hq1hitchin
Can't remember if I've posted this before, apologies if I have
Re: Forward - the LNER's plans in 1946
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:23 pm
by 2002EarlMarischal
A fascinating document I have never seen before - many thanks for posting!
Re: Forward - the LNER's plans in 1946
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:29 pm
by strang steel
There is an article on that very subject in the April edition of Backtrack magazine.
Re: Forward - the LNER's plans in 1946
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:39 pm
by ArthurK
About the same date the there was a booklet outlining the Thompson loco standardisation scheme. I lost my copy when I left home for college. I have searched secondhand outlets but without success. Does anyone have the actual title and author? That would make a search much easier.
ArthurK
Re: Forward - the LNER's plans in 1946
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:14 pm
by Bryan
2 questions
Any detail on the fire at York Carriage shops?
Also were was the location for the proposed "Flyunder" at York? Skelton bridge possibly?
Re: Forward - the LNER's plans in 1946
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:56 pm
by hq1hitchin
Some of it just doesn't make sense to our way of thinking today. For instance, £144k on engineers workshops at Welwyn GC or £145k on improved and remodelled carriage sidings at Basford and Bulwell. That was serious money in 1946. Sadly, nobody left alive today who can really explain it all. Or is there someone out there?
Re: Forward - the LNER's plans in 1946
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:24 pm
by Hatfield Shed
ArthurK wrote:About the same date the there was a booklet outlining the Thompson loco standardisation scheme. I lost my copy when I left home for college...
The locomotives of the L.N.E.R.: standardisation and renumbering. London: LNER, 1947. Author OS Nock.
Thompson standard types plus classes to be maintained. Also tabulated data on all locomotive types and lists of named locomotives.
http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/L ... edir_esc=y
Re: Forward - the LNER's plans in 1946
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:27 pm
by mick b
£50,000,000 how much is that in current terms. I have always been under the impression that the LNER was always the poorest of the Big Four ?.
Re: Forward - the LNER's plans in 1946
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:48 pm
by jukebox
Thank goodness the "improvements" to Kings Cross never happened! Desecrating Cubitt's classic facade would have been Euston Arch II, as far as I am concerned.
Re: Forward - the LNER's plans in 1946
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:40 am
by giner
Thanks for posting this, hq1 - a fascinating piece, indeed. I'm curious about the training centre mentioned for Hadley Wood. Does anyone know exactly where this would have been situated?
And the plans for a new marshalling yard at Oakleigh Park brought to mind the hundreds of WD surplus motorbikes that sat in wooden crates long after the war, and were eventually sold off really cheaply. My dad bought a Model 16H Norton. Can't remember now how much he paid for it, but on a bricklayer's wage it must have been a sweet deal.
Re: Forward - the LNER's plans in 1946
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:12 am
by Beechwood
mick b wrote:£50,000,000 how much is that in current terms. I have always been under the impression that the LNER was always the poorest of the Big Four ?.
I think the big four were expecting a large payment from the government for services rendered during the war. In the end it was cheaper to nationalise the railways than to pay up.
Re: Forward - the LNER's plans in 1946
Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:45 pm
by StevieG
giner wrote: " .... I'm curious about the training centre mentioned for Hadley Wood. Does anyone know exactly where this would have been situated? .... "
I seem to recall reading somewhere in the dim and distant, that, south of the Crescent West/East road bridge across the station I think, there was a former large house, maybe on the up side, which the LNER had taken over and made into a telegraph/other clerical school ; perhaps pre-war.
I wonder if the statement in the document refers in some way to the setting-up and/or enhancement of that centre.
[Addition Edit :] Just found mentions (inconclusive, though), here : -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/railwaycanal/message/1523
Re: Forward - the LNER's plans in 1946
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:43 am
by Mickey
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Re: Forward - the LNER's plans in 1946
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:49 pm
by giner
StevieG wrote:giner wrote: " .... I'm curious about the training centre mentioned for Hadley Wood. Does anyone know exactly where this would have been situated? .... "
I seem to recall reading somewhere in the dim and distant, that, south of the Crescent West/East road bridge across the station I think, there was a former large house, maybe on the up side, which the LNER had taken over and made into a telegraph/other clerical school ; perhaps pre-war.
I wonder if the statement in the document refers in some way to the setting-up and/or enhancement of that centre.
[Addition Edit :] Just found mentions (inconclusive, though), here : -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/railwaycanal/message/1523
Thanks, Steve. I had a look at Google maps on this but, as usual, so much has changed. Pretty soon we're all going to need to be archeologists, I think.
Re: Forward - the LNER's plans in 1946
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:52 pm
by hq1hitchin
There certainly was a railway training school at Hadley Wood post-war but it had gone by the mid 1960s. Have read that HNG did live in Hadley Wood and seem to recall reading that he also lived later on in Salisbury Hall, which is about three miles from Radlett, but finally moved to Watton at Stone.