Another LNER Moquette question

[60044]

The LNERCA is now looking to commission a batch of reproduction "fawn rep" which was commonly used in thrd class stock from ca. 1928 on. Someone who used to work for BR at York recalled that there were items of furniture at the York HQ upholstered with what souns like this material, and I wonder if anyone here knows of the existence of such furniture now? The material is basically a dark brown diamond or square gri, with a fawn fill and a dark quatrefoil (four leaf clover) pattern in the cntre of each square.

We have good clear photos of the pattern, but no colour references so if anyone can help locate even a small sample of material that would be invaluable.

[Trestrol]

Most BR offices had already got rid of their "old" furniture by the late 80's early 90's replaced by tables and chairs from the "Crown Suppliers". the only old furniture around used to be the old Captains chairs which had a separate cushion. These cusions were probably made in the carraige works as i think they were sprung. I know Beamish has some pieces of furniture as i have tried in the past to take photos with my phone but they didn't come out well. it may be worth contacting the curator of transport to see what they have in store. Attached is a photo taken of the guards seat in the GER royal saloon at Beamish. I think this late LNER moquette.

[60044]

Thanks for the tip - I'll get in touch with Beamish.

The pattern shown in your photo is very similar to the material that has recently gone into the first class compartments of Thompson CL 88339 and we have a further supply for Thompson CK 18477 which is to be our next project. It was acquired from the Southdown Omnibus Trust, as it was used in Southdown buses, and has been nicknamed "purple cabbages"

[Trestrol]

Yes another Scabby Thompson! at least it gets them finished and we can do some proper Gresley's. Have you thought of converting the RF into a semi-open First as we will have a RF once the converted TK is done.

[52D]

Just watched the following and noted some samples in the aftermath of crashes on seats etc, it may be worth a look as there is plenty of LNER stuff featured.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZW-pNxK ... re=related

[60044]

Thinking about the RF is a long way off! The converted TK will be no more than a pastiche of an RF as a lot of compromises have had to be made, not least in the positioning of the doors. Some may wonder why we've done this rather than put it back to a corridor third, but it was too far gone for that to be economically practical, and we do at least know that it will get used as a dining car, as this area seems to be ever-increasing on the NYMR (along with footplate experience courses, apparently)

The conversion of 43654 into a pantry third or open third woud work well with the RF to recreate the classic general purpose dining pair, with the added advantage that the third could be used for normal passenger service when required.

[60044]

Here's a blown up image of the material that we are trying to find a sample of. Over the last few days our information on LNER moquettes has increased a lot and we've found a sample of another fabric that had previously eluded us, but this one is still proving to be elusive. If anyone can help we'd love to hear from you!

[Trestrol]

Nice picture, Is this of a Sleeper third? like 1299.

[60044]

It is, the full picture will be in the next LNERCA newsletter (April) along with some other interesting images. It has also gone off to a company who claim to be able to get colour information from the B & W pic - we shall see!

[vic]

I thought that you were interested in all things L.N.E.R. and should I refer to an L.N.E.R. coach as another "scabby Thompson" then I would go away and hide as i deserved. Such comments do no good to our cause and should stay in the twisted head that invented them.

[sawdust]

I thought that you were interested in all things L.N.E.R. and should I refer to an L.N.E.R. coach as another "scabby Thompson" then I would go away and hide as i deserved. Such comments do no good to our cause and should stay in the twisted head that invented them.

Don't worry it's an LNERCA in joke, using a term originally applied to Buffet Car 641 by one of it's owners. They all get referred to as 'scabby' along the way usually when they start to look anything but!

Sawdust.

[jwealleans]

I know I'd be heartily sick of the sight of anything I spent as much time working on as you chaps do - 'scabby' might be one of the politer descriptive terms I used.

[Trestrol]

I thought that you were interested in all things L.N.E.R. and should I refer to an L.N.E.R. coach as another "scabby Thompson" then I would go away and hide as i deserved. Such comments do no good to our cause and should stay in the twisted head that invented them.

I am sorry you think i was being offensive it was not my intention. As Sawdust commented it's an in joke within LNERCA to call them this mainly to wind up the Vice Chairman who used to part own this coach. He takes this in all good fun in the way it was intended. We also used to call the Buffet a 60' Wind Tunnel as well. Thomposon coaches are not my favorite LNER coaches i have to admit, I do like the idea of not passing more than one compartment to get to a door but thats about all. Having seen how much new wood has had to go into it to get it to the stage it is now i sometimes think is it worth it but it is a unique coach so deserves its place. I would have prefered a Gresley to be restored but this is the coach that was decided upon by the group so that is what we are doiung. It would not stop me volunteering to help restore it. Also having sent some time rubbing down varnish between coats on the dark stained corridor walls is sometimes enough to put anybody off.

[60044]

You'll have had so much practice at it that you'll be able to do the same in the CK so much quicker when we come to it.

The bad news is that the CK is next, the good news is there are no more Thompsons to do after it!

[sawdust]

You'll have had so much practice at it that you'll be able to do the same in the CK so much quicker when we come to it.

The bad news is that the CK is next, the good news is there are no more Thompsons to do after it!

But the good news is also that there is less of it!

Sawdust.