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Hi.
One of the images I have from old glass negatives, but where was this photograph taken?

"Gresley A3 Pacific LNER 2504 'Sandwich'"



I am also including a 'cropped' section of the image as it shows some detail that may assist.



Please can any one shed light upon where this photograph may have been taken?

Thank you

Adge

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That is why I put the 'cropped' image in, as I being a total numpty and knowing so little about the subject, I wondered if the number '208' on the gate post may well identify the specific crossing to someone who has a magic list of equipment numbering.

Thanks again

Adge

The B12 8559 is fitted with an indicator shelter for the purpose of taking test readings while on the move, a man or men could ride behind this contraption.

The down side siding rather deters me from Barnby crossing...

Could it be Grove Road, south of Retford, with Sandwich heading north?

Cheers
Robt P.

rob237 wrote:The down side siding rather deters me from Barnby crossing...

Could it be Grove Road, south of Retford, with Sandwich heading north?

Cheers
Robt P.

sandwich appears to be heading into the sun ie south or southeast

Lovely shot of Sandwich, adge.

I had a look at Google Maps for Grove Road, plus a few other level crossings in the Newark and Retford areas, but none of the curvatures look very convincing, so . . .

It's nice to see a few of the old signal boxes are still in existence, and looking good, though.

The Northeastern used to number their crossing, but I am not sure the GN did. If so the 208 identifies the crossing, but it might also be a bridge late for a road drain culvert under the track as 208 is quite a high number for crossings.

The site looks quite rural which tends to rule out Wesyt yorkshire, but the train gives an appearance of being Pullman stock, so limits the number of routes

The sidings look like a goods yard or other terminal not a junction, which explains the stop signal just beyond the crossing protecting the turnout. What about a diverted train on the joint line possibly Spalding area?

third-rail wrote:

rob237 wrote:The down side siding rather deters me from Barnby crossing...

Could it be Grove Road, south of Retford, with Sandwich heading north?

Cheers
Robt P.

sandwich appears to be heading into the sun ie south or southeast

cambois wrote:The Northeastern used to number their crossing, but I am not sure the GN did. If so the 208 identifies the crossing, but it might also be a bridge late for a road drain culvert under the track as 208 is quite a high number for crossings.

The site looks quite rural which tends to rule out Wesyt yorkshire, but the train gives an appearance of being Pullman stock, so limits the number of routes

The sidings look like a goods yard or other terminal not a junction, which explains the stop signal just beyond the crossing protecting the turnout. What about a diverted train on the joint line possibly Spalding area?

Thank you to all your messages, but to pick up on the thoughts about the Sun and Pullman stock, I have looked at the full sized image I have and have the following thoughts :

Although I am not a great officiando of the subject, I believe the coaches are of Pullman stock.

If I look at the shadow created by the Sun on the left hand gate in the image, then A: Morning, would mean Sandwich is travelling Northwards. B: Mid Day, would mean Sandwich is travelling Eastwards. C: Afternoon / evening, would mean Sandwich is travelling Southwards.

Sorry guys, I am not able to say if that means the 'up' line or 'down' line, but maybe when we do work out the crossing she is on, we will then know.

PS. The train in the sidings is a goods train, and according to an 'Old maps' web site, in the 1920's if the map is accurate, then 'grove rd' can be ruled out as it does not have the small 'spur' as i will call it, running back towards the left hand gate.

Cheers folks.

Mystery over I do believe.

I took a long slow walk up the map and looked back at early 1920's maps and found the following which I believe suggests that the location may well be 'Tuxford Junction'.



The crossing nor the sidings exist now according to current maps, but can be seen on google maps just below where the A6075 crosses over the track.

Thanks again for all the input I have been given.


Adge

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Level crossing 208 is Tuxford Crossing at 131m 75¾ch (replaced by overline bridge 290A at an unknown date). The signal box on the left is Tuxford Station box on the down side at 131m 75¼ch.

A view taken on 12 February 1982 looking in the same direction and from almost the same viewpoint shows a few changes have taken place! Incidentally, irrespective of what maps may say, there was no such thing as 'Tuxford Junction', the junction to the south of Tuxford station (and the signal box there) was Tuxford North Junction.

Andy

Nice one Andy. Although living not too far from Tuxford the main line bores me im more into the LD&ECR and Sheffield/Chesterfields more unusual locations, still its good to see another mystery pic getting the full treatment on here.