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Just an amendment to my previous posting about the 'Luton frame' in Welwyn Garden City box. The 20 levers that made up the Luton frame only 2 were working levers the other 18 levers of which i said were spares i suppose really they were 'redundent levers' and were still painted in there previous colours but disconnected to anything so i suppose they weren't truly 'spares' as such but thinking about it's worth mentioning. Hey, it was 38 years ago!. Micky

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Micky wrote:Yeah East goods between Finsbury Park No4 and Holloway north up i knew of it but by the time i started 'knocking around' the old GN around 1967/68 it was gone. (Thinking of which i treated that railway like my own personal playground when i was growing up really! one could do silly things like go up and into s/boxes or walk around Ferme Park yards and nobody said anything!!!). I think one of the regular signalmen at Welwyn Garden City a fella by the name of Harry Fitzgerald once worked there but i wouldn't swear on it. Micky

Harry Fitzgerald - aka The Sabotage King, if you listened to my then boss, Fred Buck! Remember Alan 'Peddler' Palmer, Cecil White, R/S Dave Tilbury, R/S Curly Colbert?

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Micky wrote:Just an amendment to my previous posting about the 'Luton frame' in Welwyn Garden City box. The 20 levers that made up the Luton frame only 2 were working levers the other 18 levers of which i said were spares i suppose really they were 'redundent levers' and were still painted in there previous colours but disconnected to anything so i suppose they weren't truly 'spares' as such but thinking about it's worth mentioning. Hey, it was 38 years ago!. Micky

The Luton frame had 19 levers : Those 2 brown ones oddly, had no numbers; the rest which, as you say, had all gone out of use (when the Luton line from Hatfield to Wheathampstead and beyond, including the loop line through WGC station, had become only the single line from WGC Down Back Platform to Blackbridge Siding), were numbered L1 - L17.

G'Day Gents
East Goods yard, now there's a forgotten yard, remember as a kid passing there on my way to the 'Cross' always plenty of activity, but when I started on the railway, only about six roads left, often got put in there with ECS, especially if we were a bit early for the 'Cross'
All the brand new SR, VEP's used to be towed down from York works were stabled there, waiting for the SR to come over and pick them up, a couple came in every week, over a couple of years.
manna

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Thanks for the East Goods signalling diagram. Would this represent the situation during the 1940's?
One particularly interesting time to see the yard operating was when the evening fish trains arrived and were cut up for working forward to Southern Railway destinations. If I remember correctly the load for an N1 over the widened lines was around 28 - 30 wagons.
One evening, without a word to me, my driver decided to tackle Snow Hill Bank without a banker- which was quite permissable. We stuck - oh calamity!
I expect the men on the banker said serve him right for showing off!

One tale about East Goods that I never forgot concerned a tragic shunting accident a long time in the past. A light engine was held, out of the way,somewhere in the middle of the yard. In the course of shunting activities a petrol tank wagon was put over the wrong road, colliding with the detained engine and catching fire, with fatal results to the engine crew.
Has anyone any knowledge of this disaster? Accident report or whatever?