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BR Gresley coaches

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:22 pm
by JohnV
In the 1950s might a 3rd (?) Open have been used as a Restaurant Car on ECML trains?

Re: BR Gresley coaches

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:44 pm
by robertcwp
Yes, a 48-seat one could have been used as such.

Re: BR Gresley coaches

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:35 pm
by JohnV
Further to my original post on this thread, could anyone explain the term "End Vestibule Type", please?

Re: BR Gresley coaches

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:00 pm
by Wavey
End vestibule just means that the doors are at the end and passengers alight the train into an entrance 'lobby' for want of a better word.

Re: BR Gresley coaches

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:48 pm
by robertcwp
More specifically, end vestibule or end door referred to the later Gresley corridor compartment stock with doors at the ends and entrance vestibules. Earlier Gresley corridor compartment stock had doors to each compartment. The end-door stock had reduced capacity as a result. For example, an end-door corridor third had seven compartments whereas the older design had eight. The end-door stock tended to be used on the more important trains. For example, when the Master Cutler was introduced in 1947, it had a set of end-door stock.

Note that the LNER used the term 'vestibule' to mean what BR called a gangway.

Post-war (usually known today as Thompson) stock was referred to as transverse corridor in the carriage workings.