An enterprising and community-minded soul has published a series of rail maps and diagrams of Lincoln in early BR days:
http://www.photrek.co.uk/railmapheader.htm
Hope they might be of interest to forum members.
A couple of questions: does anyone know which company the Pyewipe Junction loco depot/stabling point belonged to? Was it the LD&EC or GN&GE Joint? And when did it go out of use? Does anyone have photos of it? It looks like there weren't any buildings associated with it.
Second, what is meant by the term 'cripple road' used for certain sidings? Was that where damaged or inoperative wagons or vans were stored?
Rail maps and diagrams of Lincoln
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As far as I know, that's precisely what it was.Was that where damaged or inoperative wagons or vans were stored?
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It's listed as GC in vol 10A, closed 5/39. I believe this shed predated the LD&EC whose sheds were at Langwith and TuxfordPyewipe Junction wrote:does anyone know which company the Pyewipe Junction loco depot/stabling point belonged to? Was it the LD&EC or GN&GE Joint? And when did it go out of use? Does anyone have photos of it? It looks like there weren't any buildings associated with it.?
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I've just found some better information. The shed at Pyewipe Junction was GER, and closed shortly after the groupingBill Bedford wrote:It's listed as GC in vol 10A, closed 5/39. I believe this shed predated the LD&EC whose sheds were at Langwith and TuxfordPyewipe Junction wrote:does anyone know which company the Pyewipe Junction loco depot/stabling point belonged to? Was it the LD&EC or GN&GE Joint? And when did it go out of use? Does anyone have photos of it? It looks like there weren't any buildings associated with it.?
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Re: Rail maps and diagrams of Lincoln
Oh joy! Many thanks, PJ. 
A couple of points you (or anyone else) may be able to help with.
Plate 1 shows only three bays on the up side of Central Station; plate 7 shows four (i.e Platform 1 exists!)
Does anyone know when the track into platofrm 1 was lifted - and why did they bother?
Also on the down side of the up through road a siding is shown marked as "fish dock". My recollection of the station (this would be the late 1950s) was that this siding was used to berth the station pilot which was a B1 (either "Ourebi" or 61026 - my memory is that that was both name and number but I now believe they don't match). It was regularly hissed by boy spotters as a "crate"! Does anyone know which it was, and when they stopped unloading fish there?
A couple of points you (or anyone else) may be able to help with.
Plate 1 shows only three bays on the up side of Central Station; plate 7 shows four (i.e Platform 1 exists!)
Does anyone know when the track into platofrm 1 was lifted - and why did they bother?
Also on the down side of the up through road a siding is shown marked as "fish dock". My recollection of the station (this would be the late 1950s) was that this siding was used to berth the station pilot which was a B1 (either "Ourebi" or 61026 - my memory is that that was both name and number but I now believe they don't match). It was regularly hissed by boy spotters as a "crate"! Does anyone know which it was, and when they stopped unloading fish there?
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Hi Swanpool:
glad you found the diagrams interesting. I think they were well out of date by the time of the purported date of publishing (1955) as St Mark's station is still shown as 'LMR' whereas it was transferred to the ER in 1951/2 I think.
I remember 'platform 1' at Lincoln Central quite well. In my day (1958 -1965) it was long disused for passenger services (I wonder if it ever was, in fact, used for them) and was inhabited by parcels vans. No idea when the line was taken up - ?late 1960s.
As far as the station pilot is concerned, I can never remember seeing 61026 (or any other B1 for that matter) on those duties. I do remember 'cabbing' 68599 on the 'fish dock' in 1959 and recall noticing that the cab floor was made of wood, which I thought strange. When the J67/69s were withdrawn (1959/60), I seem to remember that one of the small diesel shunters took their place (D2026/2027 etc). I not saying the 61026 was never used as station pilot (by that time I used to hang out on the Cowpaddle or, on Summer Saturdays, make the circuitous trek - I lived on Burton Road - to Pyewipe Junction), as I didn't frequent Central Station very much. However, when you think of it, using a large loco like a B1 would have been very wasteful. In fact, I wonder what the station pilot's duties were after the introduction of DMUs in the mid-1950s for most services, as there were no coaches left to move around. I think the 'fish dock' was originally a fish dock, but, like 'platform 1', long out of use for that purpose by our day.
Cheers
Alan
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glad you found the diagrams interesting. I think they were well out of date by the time of the purported date of publishing (1955) as St Mark's station is still shown as 'LMR' whereas it was transferred to the ER in 1951/2 I think.
I remember 'platform 1' at Lincoln Central quite well. In my day (1958 -1965) it was long disused for passenger services (I wonder if it ever was, in fact, used for them) and was inhabited by parcels vans. No idea when the line was taken up - ?late 1960s.
As far as the station pilot is concerned, I can never remember seeing 61026 (or any other B1 for that matter) on those duties. I do remember 'cabbing' 68599 on the 'fish dock' in 1959 and recall noticing that the cab floor was made of wood, which I thought strange. When the J67/69s were withdrawn (1959/60), I seem to remember that one of the small diesel shunters took their place (D2026/2027 etc). I not saying the 61026 was never used as station pilot (by that time I used to hang out on the Cowpaddle or, on Summer Saturdays, make the circuitous trek - I lived on Burton Road - to Pyewipe Junction), as I didn't frequent Central Station very much. However, when you think of it, using a large loco like a B1 would have been very wasteful. In fact, I wonder what the station pilot's duties were after the introduction of DMUs in the mid-1950s for most services, as there were no coaches left to move around. I think the 'fish dock' was originally a fish dock, but, like 'platform 1', long out of use for that purpose by our day.
Cheers
Alan
PS: did we know each other?
Re: Rail maps and diagrams of Lincoln
Now you mention it, there was an 0-6-0T there sometimes.
Mind you, in those days I just took railway workings for granted, never tried to work out why they did what they did!
I don't remember anyone called Alan particularly, but you know what it's like when you're a kid, you only mix with your own year...
Mind you, in those days I just took railway workings for granted, never tried to work out why they did what they did!
I don't remember anyone called Alan particularly, but you know what it's like when you're a kid, you only mix with your own year...