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D & S Kits GER 6 wheel coach and D & S Kits Sundries Van

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:07 pm
by Mallard
Good morning all. A friend has asked if I can find out about the above kits.

I've never seen a D & S kit, :oops: however I see they go for silly money on that auction site.

Does this mean they are good kits or is it just the rarity value? :shock:

More importantly, have any of you guys/gals built the GER 6 wheel jobby and/or the Sundries van?

If so, perhaps you will spare the time to outline the build verdict in your valued opinion(s)?

Pointers to ref material would also be very helpful thanks.
P @ 36E

Re: D & S Kits GER 6 wheel coach and D & S Kits Sundries Van

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:19 pm
by jwealleans
Hi Phil,

D & S kits are sought after because they are good kits and also because they cover prototypes which only Danny and our own Bill Bedford have ever offered.

I have a couple of the GE 6 wheelers but have not built them. Most of Danny's kits go together in the same way and very straightforwardly, in my experience. Likewise the Sundries van I have was built when I acquired it but doesn't look horribly complex. Mick B has built that - search out his thread on the old RMWeb (I was looking at it last night).

Isinglass offer the very similar milk van - a 'signature' GE section vehicle. Paul Gallon has built that on RMWeb very recently.

Dan is rerunning some of his 4mm kits in batches at the moment and I'm sure I have seen mention of the GE 6 wheelers, so you may not have to pay ridiculous ebay prices for them if your friend is looking for any more.

Re: D & S Kits GER 6 wheel coach and D & S Kits Sundries Van

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:23 pm
by Mallard
Thanks J. Looks like I could 'have a go' for this friend then!!
Oh, I keep meaning to come over to Ormsby Hall (purely for the scones and tea you understand). When do you do 'duty' there?
P

Re: D & S Kits GER 6 wheel coach and D & S Kits Sundries Van

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:40 pm
by jwealleans
I'd have a go, Phil. I'm sure you won't regret it.

Ormesby Hall is closed until March now, but you'd be welcome on a Monday evening. We only run to chocolate biscuits, though, no scones in the off-season.

Re: D & S Kits GER 6 wheel coach and D & S Kits Sundries Van

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:48 pm
by Mallard
Good afternoon.
Here are the boxes! As mentioned elsewhere, inside are nice but thin etches! :|
I really would appreciate any help with references for the coach. I have the van in Tatlow.
Of course if anyone has one built and has some pics that would be excellent.
Many thanks, P @ 36E

Re: D & S Kits GER 6 wheel coach and D & S Kits Sundries Van

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:02 am
by owd sweedy
Hi Mallard, I have built a few D&S kits over the years, and though they are not "shake the box" simple, they do make up into nice models. I should say I am modelling in 7mm and not 4mm. I would have to search hard to find fault, and most problems I had were down to my lack of ability. Thinking back, I did find some of the whitemetal castings were a bit flimsy, I am thinking of the spring hangers and perhaps lost wax brass castings would have been a better, (but more expensive), option.
In the attached photos there is an all brake, a sundries van, and a brake third. I apologize for the unfinished roof on the Br3rd, it is a replacement for the original wooden one that I fitted over ten years ago. It split, and I am replacing it with aluminum.

The coaches are painted in scumbled teak finish and the van is supposed to be varnished teak. I used a Pantone coloured marker pen to simulate the Teak after looking at colour photos, (best I can do from this side of the Atlantic). In this light it does look a bit too red.
Cheers,
Sweedy.

Re: D & S Kits GER 6 wheel coach and D & S Kits Sundries Van

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:46 pm
by Mallard
Thanks owd. They look really lovely. I think I just need to get my head straight before 'opening the box' with these two kits. They are for someone else and I think I'm just a bit worried about making a hash of something. If they were mine they would still be in 'the drawer' of things to do!
P

Re: D & S Kits GER 6 wheel coach and D & S Kits Sundries Van

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:15 pm
by CVR1865
Hi Mallard,
I built a DnS 4 wheeler some yrs back, I will trawl through old photos for it.

They go together really well, I built mine with the compensation and part soldered, part resin. If you have built with Brass before they you will be fine. The only problem I had was with the tumble home on the laminated sides, if I did it again I would form it first on both parts then attach them or build the jig as suggested in the instructions. For some reason at the time I thought I knew better than Dan.

Really nice models and a shame they aren't still available.

Thanks
Simon

Re: D & S Kits GER 6 wheel coach and D & S Kits Sundries Van

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:30 pm
by CVR1865
Photos found.

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thanks
Simon

Re: D & S Kits GER 6 wheel coach and D & S Kits Sundries Van

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:29 am
by Mallard
Simon. Nice job(s) there lad. Very grateful for your bother to dig out the pics. Much appreciated. Tublehome tip good thanks; I've done a few Comet laminates on Gresleys so I know it's a bit of a chore.
ATB Phil @36E

Re: D & S Kits GER 6 wheel coach and D & S Kits Sundries Van

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:15 pm
by Mallard
Here are the contents of the boxes. It has taken two weeks to open those boxes!
GER Sundries Van etches and bits.jpg
Ever so thin etches; oh er!
GER  D519 Brake 3rd etches and bits.jpg
Thin etches, ever so; er oh!
P