Hornby 'Smoke Joe' = Y9?

Post by **richard** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:50 pm

Christopher High has just emailed me to suggest that Hornby's "Smokey Joe" saddletank model is a Drummond Y9:

http://www.hornby.com/pages/prod_det.aspx?id=1092
http://www.lner.info/locos/Y/y9.shtml

A lot of the parameters are identical or very similar. Also the side profiles are very similar but with detail differences (eg. the buffers, and the cab side sheets). The Hornby page says it is based on a Caledonian model. It also has an ex-LMS BR number.
The Y9s were built to a Neilson standard design.

Does anone know anything about the CR engines? I'm thinking that both sets of engines were built to the same Neilson design - hence the broad similarities but detail differences. Can anyone confirm or contradict this hypothesis?

Richard

61650GTFC · Post by **61650GTFC** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:06 am

The hornby model is the Caladonian loco. The Y9 was almost identical apart from the safety valves, buffers, cab , water filler and dome. If memory serves me right even the wheel size and tractive effort where almost identical. I have some pictures in The book the last steam locomotives of British rail and converted a model Y9 from a hornby Caly tank. I was only 16 when i did it and its not up to modern standards but doesnt look too bad.

Post by **richard** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:47 pm

Yes the wheel size is identical. The weight is similar (within a ton).

I'll make a note of the Hornby model on the page.

Thanks!

Richard