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C12 in 4mm

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:25 pm
by jubbely
Fisrt time poster. hello all!!

Been trying to source a model kit for this for sometime and have decided to try the Craftsman kit. Has anyone had any experience with this kit and can give me any tips on what chassis kit I might need. And if it would be a suitable kit for a begineer to try?

Many thanks for any advice
Jub

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:21 am
by rob
Hello and welcome,
The Craftsman kit includes a chassis and whats more the important folds and bends are preformed,a useful feature of the Craftsman range.If you have only built plastic kits up to this the usual advice would be to start with a few metal wagon kits to pick up the basic techniques then a simple 0-6-0 in whitemetal(SEF J69 etc) but I think the C12 could be managable,it's inside cylinder and you shouldn't need any complex forming done.Most likely someone here has built this specific kit and can add more information.
Rob

Re: C12 in 4mm

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:41 am
by Bill Bedford
jubbely wrote: Been trying to source a model kit for this for sometime and have decided to try the Craftsman kit. Has anyone had any experience with this kit and can give me any tips on what chassis kit I might need. And if it would be a suitable kit for a begineer to try?
Jub
The Craftsman kit is very old and basic. A much better option is the new London Road Models kit.

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:44 pm
by jubbely
Rob,

Thanks for the advice. I'll pick up a wagon kit and maybe something simple. I also want a N7, so I'll see if I can get hole of one of those, I think SE Finecast do one.

Bill

I had a look at the London Road models site, but couldn't see anything on there or any way to contact them. Is that a brand new kit?

As a general point, how would I know what wheels and motors and so forth I would need to complete my model? I've done a few plastic models where I just used a box of spare wheels I had, but they were wagons and so it was fairly easy to get a match up, now I'm not really sure. I have The 4mm Engine by R.G.Williams, are there any other recommended books, perhaps more geared for beginners?

Thanks again!

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:04 pm
by Bill Bedford
jubbely wrote: I had a look at the London Road models site, but couldn't see anything on there or any way to contact them. Is that a brand new kit?
The web site hasn't been updated since December.....

John had the C12 on his stand at Aylesbury, if not S4N in Wakefield, so if it is not on sale just now it will be RSN
As a general point, how would I know what wheels and motors and so forth I would need to complete my model?
For wheels

WHEEL SPECIFICATION FOR MODELLERS. 3rd Edition - 1991 by M. Sharman ISBN 978-0-853614-21-0 Book 64 Pages Publisher: Oakwood Press

But it is a good idea to check Sharman's listing against any photographs you have.


For motor, probably any of the small mashimas will fit. The limits tend to be the way the motor and gears fit into the body. Most gearbox manufacturers have information sheets /overlays that help you plan which of their motor/gearbox combinations will fit in to your loco. Check out the Comet, London Road and Highlevel sites for more info.[/quote]

Re: C12 in 4mm

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:47 pm
by ecgtheow
I just saw this post & hope my reply is not too late. Bill Bedford may be remembering the old Craftsman kit, which has been updated with a much better etched brass chassis, so I would recommend it as not too difficult for a beginner, but also capable of being built into a good model as the attached photo shows (I didn't paint it - Larry Goddard did)

Ecgtheow

Re: C12 in 4mm

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:15 pm
by Atso
Hey that looks really good! 8) GNR livery really suits the loco - anyone do one in N gauge!?