Workbench Update - J50 nearing completion

Atso · Post by **Atso** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:31 pm

Hi guys,

Having just read an interesting article by Pete Waterman on Gresley teaks, I thought I'd try his method for producing the wooden finish on my Peco turntable kit. The pictures show the progress as of the fifth coat of Ronseal gloss teak varnish which has also had a coat of matt varnish applied.

The fourth picture is my attempt at a 1930's condition A4 inspired by the pictures of Golden Eagle by f4kphantom.

CVR1865 · Post by **CVR1865** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:25 pm

They all look very good. Wat was the article in? and wat was the gist of the techniques advised.

Atso · Post by **Atso** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:06 am

The article was in British Railway Modeller (can't remember which one - I'll have to find it again!) covering a pigieon train for Pete's layout. The article doesn't cover the technique used in too much detail. All I've do is to spray the table with white plastic primer from Halfords and then proceed to paint thin coats of teak varnish over the top. Simple but time consuming.

Bill Bedford · Post by **Bill Bedford** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:07 pm

Atso wrote:Hi guys,

Having just read an interesting article by Pete Waterman on Gresley teaks, I thought I'd try his method for producing the wooden finish on my Peco turntable kit. The pictures show the progress as of the fifth coat of Ronseal gloss teak varnish which has also had a coat of matt varnish applied.

Wooden walk ways were not usually vanished.

Atso · Post by **Atso** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:23 pm

Never mind it was a cheap second hand kit and I like the effect. Besides now that its been give a couple of coats of matt varish and once its been weathered I'm hoping that it'll tone it down a bit.

By the way I've had a look at you're price list and am impressed with the range of kits available! If the varnish works on my spare Dapol coach I'm def going to put in some orders for the Quad sets if thats ok... Quick question on that though. Can they be built as supplier or would you recommend using them as overlays on a coach body?

Thanks for the comments...

Bill Bedford · Post by **Bill Bedford** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:08 pm

Atso wrote:By the way I've had a look at you're price list and am impressed with the range of kits available! If the varnish works on my spare Dapol coach I'm def going to put in some orders for the Quad sets if thats ok... Quick question on that though. Can they be built as supplier or would you recommend using them as overlays on a coach body?

The quads and most of the LNER and pre-group coaches are available a stand-alone kits, its only the BR, SR and Stanier coaches that were drawn as overlays.

wehf100 · Post by **wehf100** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:45 am

protoypical? maybe not! Most wood I've seen outdoors is probably closer to 'silver' than anything else- but as a display for a Gresley Pacific? I can think of nothing finer- Nice effect!

So is scenery getting built now or is this just an experiment? Exciting stuff either way!

Will

wehf100 · Post by **wehf100** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:47 am

while you're here Atso= Thought you may be interested in my new N-gauge project (other than the Manning Wardle body on a BR O4 diesel chassis which is going just swell- trying to make a weatherboard cab from brass thinner than a hair isnt my idea of fun, but....)

Just received an American N-gauge Athearn 'Old Time 2-6-0' which looks very similar to the Moguls the GCR (and Midland and the GNR) bought from Baldwin in 1900= The scale difference actually makes them very close to the smaller size the UK companies ordered and with a UK chimney/dome and tender body it will look ok I think. The boiler scales out only about 4.5 REAL inches too big, and the overall wheelbase (but not spacing ...grrr) is spot on.

As an avid N-Gauge kit basher (i.e- the only one I know of!!!) Where do you source spare parts/ boiler fittings spare bodies etc etc??

W

Post by **richard** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:26 pm

wehf: You may have mentioned the MW before. Is this the Peco kit?

I occasionally see them go on EBay, but for more than I'm prepared to pay.

My next big UK order for books are going to be Manning-Wardle books (my big NERA order of NE Records and wagon diagrams has started to arrive, well package 3/3 arrived yesterday - I hope 1 & 2 arrive soon!)

Richard

wehf100 · Post by **wehf100** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:22 pm

yeah- I'll post some pics when I finally get something looking like a complete loco.

I certainly wouldn't want to pay any ebay 'collectors' money for it nowadays- as you really need to throw away 60% to make a nice model on a modern mechanism. It is maybe worth £10 but no more.

I basically kept the saddletank (and boiler fittings) and smokebox (plus chimney) and chucked the rest. The kit has an enclosed cab very much in the style of 1930's Colliery engines- which you can keep, but that had to come off my model, dated around 1914-1923. I am building a new footplate in brass, cab sides and weatherboard. The biggest job is trying to low-melt solder those tiny bits!

It also struck me that other than the O4 chassis (after removal of the bell crank you get a 0-6-0 inside cylinder job) if money was no object a Flieschman 0-4-0 chassis such as this would probably fit under it. (top loco) http://www.fleischmanndirect.ltd.uk/sub-fl-na.htm

Will

Post by **richard** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:14 pm

I am wanting to build some classic MW 0-4-0STs in 7mm. The closest is the one from Slaters - but there's no motor available. Fitting one is the problem - so even in the much larger scale, motor space can be a big issue!

Richard

Atso · Post by **Atso** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:03 pm

Hi guys,

Some more pictures - this time of my repainted Dapol Gresley. Sorry about the flash in these but they were taken on my phone and it was either that or not picture...

Also in a couple of shots is the turntable deck showing the difference now I've matt varnished it.

W- where do I source fittings from... errmmm... all sorts of places really, N Brass does a nice range of boiler fittings which as does BH Enterprises (same range? I don't know), PD Marsh's GWR fittings can be used but require some effort to get to look like LNER bits. Also I've made domes out of a piece of plastic tube filled with miliput and shaped in an electric drill (see pic of my converted A3). I also did the chimney for my J6 out of a piece of brass rod with a washer soldered around it - not as difficult as it sounds.

Bodies and parts come from where-ever I can get them, some direct from Farish, ebay and swap meets mainly. Failing that try scratchbuilding, I'm not great with this yet but its fun and I've learnt alot quite quickly.

As for the layout - nothing built yet but I'm clearing the junk out of the room this weekend to redecorate it and got c. £200 of track on the way!

wehf100 · Post by **wehf100** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:14 pm

richard wrote:wehf: You may have mentioned the MW before. Is this the Peco kit?

I occasionally see them go on EBay, but for more than I'm prepared to pay.

My next big UK order for books are going to be Manning-Wardle books (my big NERA order of NE Records and wagon diagrams has started to arrive, well package 3/3 arrived yesterday - I hope 1 & 2 arrive soon!)

Richard

I forgot to mention it (forgive me for hijacking the thread a bit Atso-)

Richard, you may find this website helpful re Manning Wardles- I certainly did.

http://www.middletonrailway.org.uk/roll ... n/page001/

W

Post by **richard** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:34 pm

2004? I have the Sir Berkeley booklet - I assumed it had been restored earlier than that, unless this is just a major rebuild! The Middleton's Y7 was in a similar condition when I visited them (and it has run in preservation too).

Richard

Atso · Post by **Atso** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:19 am

Will.

I've just seen your Manning Wardle on 'that other forum' - impressive stuff there my friend. Can wait to see how this progresses!

A message for Mr Bedford, do you have any N/2mm Gresleys in stock at the moment?

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