Hornby Gresley Full Brake

[Atlantic 3279]

Have they REALLY done anything with the actual tumblehome / turnunder of the sides, or have Model Rail just been taken-in by some titivation of the shape of the beading down the edges of the coach ends? Isn't true change prevented or severely limited by the excessive width of the (unchanged?) floor/underframe design, and by the fit of the glazing in the supposedly matching passenger coaches? Have a good look at images previously posted in this thread and check comments. I think Mike Trice had something to say on the strictly limited extent of the changes that Hornby has been prepared to sanction.

[IAK]

The fact that Coachman [Larry Goddard] has left it as supplied seems to show its pretty much ok , tumblehome wise. Check his RMWEB threads out.

All I ken is that mine will get the Coachman "slimming" treatment downstairs; new, correct wheelbase sprung bogies and a lot of other tweaks. Now MR's review has implied the ducket dimensions are iffy so that also needs checking - seems odd mind that nobody else has picked up on this?

This may seem hard work as opposed to just building one up from the MJT parts, but then I do prefer working with plastic - it doesn't burn!

I will also say a lot of conflicting opinion is blurring things on these mind....

[MikeTrice]

Have they REALLY done anything with the actual tumblehome

Yes, they really have.

[mick b]

Excellent and a great price and value.

You can see the Tumblehome =1mm in 4mm !! Also the centre beading is now correct position. Please ignore the wrong shape Corridor connector !!

[Atlantic 3279]

Have they REALLY done anything with the actual tumblehome

Yes, they really have.

You can see the Tumblehome =1mm in 4mm !!

Well that seems encouraging. I must try to be less sceptical.

[Green Nigel]

Bravo Hornby, it makes the under frames look worse. I love the bogies though, especially when applied to the right carriage .
Is it me or do the sole bars look like a Victorian ladies skirt trying to hide her modesty?.

[Manxman1831]

No pleasing some people

More than happy to see that I was wrong about the tumblehome. A question directly for Mike that might be commercially sensitive, but what was the reason given for the incorrect profiles being used previously?

[mick b]

Bravo Hornby, it makes the under frames look worse. I love the bogies though, especially when applied to the right carriage .
Is it me or do the sole bars look like a Victorian ladies skirt trying to hide her modesty?.

Bizarre . I look forward to seeing what you are running for £30 each.

[MikeTrice]

A question directly for Mike that might be commercially sensitive, but what was the reason given for the incorrect profiles being used previously?

No idea as it was before my involvement. There are so many errors.

[S.A.C. Martin]

Is it really only £30?! I may have to invest in one soon then.

[mick b]

they are on ebay

[S.A.C. Martin]

Thanks Mick - I will have a looksie on my lunch break...

[Green Nigel]

30 pounds would be absolute bargain if the thing was right but when you add on the cost of replacement parts, and the time spent correcting the sole bars, queen posts ect only to find out that the body is too wide anyway it becomes a lest attractive proposition.

I would rather pay more for a better model, but if I can pick one up for around twenty pounds then it becomes a more cost effective solution and out will come the piecing saw. Lets face it if your an LNER fan you are asked to pay more money then the LMS, GWR and SR people for what is a poorer model in comparison.

At the end of the day I like building things, I'm not perfect but I try to do it to the best of my ability. I don't get paid for doing it, its a hobby. The guys at Hornby do get paid for it, so I demand better for my money, especial when they are have producing a range of excellent non corridor carriages for about the same price.

I see the BG as areal lost opportunity to correct the flaws in the corridor stock, however as I mentioned if you can pick them up cheaply they make excellent conversion material especial if the over all weight of a train is an issue.

[strang steel]

Fortunately, being a "coarse modeller", I dont have to worry about the details. If it looks ok to me, and fits into my 1957-60 time zone then I buy one (or maybe more). The bigger variety of stock, the better a parcels train looks to me.

[Green Nigel]

I quite agree, its fine if your a course scale modeller, I just wish that was reflected in the price.