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Re: On my Workbench - GE 50' stock.
Thanks for that, Bob. I'm going to assume they were on both sides (that way they can't put the coach the wrong way round on the layout and hide my hard work).
I carried on putting this CCT back together last night... and you know how a job just grows...I remembered Mick's similar build from a while ago... and an article he used in MRJ... and that I had a copy of said MRJ for just this purpose...
So here it is with revised (corrected) braking arrangements, brake lever moved to the correct end and spaced out from the solebar (otherwise the bogie won't pivot), extra bits of brake rigging added and the stirrup steps under one door only on each side. I've also added a bit of spare fret along the top of each end to give a better key for the roof to glue onto.
I carried on putting this CCT back together last night... and you know how a job just grows...I remembered Mick's similar build from a while ago... and an article he used in MRJ... and that I had a copy of said MRJ for just this purpose...
So here it is with revised (corrected) braking arrangements, brake lever moved to the correct end and spaced out from the solebar (otherwise the bogie won't pivot), extra bits of brake rigging added and the stirrup steps under one door only on each side. I've also added a bit of spare fret along the top of each end to give a better key for the roof to glue onto.
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Re: On my Workbench - GE 50' stock.
Which MRJ was it.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Re: On my Workbench - GE 50' stock.
Took some finding.... here is Mick's build. The MRJ you want is 102.
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Re: On my Workbench - GE 50' stock.
That article by Peter Tatlow can lead you into some lengthy detailing....and I had two of these CCTs, the other bought some years ago as part of a job lot from Ebay and left in its incomplete state as received. In all, apart from the brake gear amendments, the right hand step is removed from both sides, body brackets added (10 each side), lamp irons, door handles and the stirrup step each side. I started making the body brackets from brass but quickly lost interest in that and made them from Evergreen strip instead. The beading on the one I'd stripped was also incomplete so that was reinstated using 10 x 30 thou strip.
Here they are in primer - one is now in brown. The additional brake gear can be seen below:
I'm just waiting for some replacement bogie castings to come though from Matt Chivers and then these can be finished off.
I don't think I posted a picture of this after I lettered it:
Not perfect, but not bad for a quid from Hattons.
Here they are in primer - one is now in brown. The additional brake gear can be seen below:
I'm just waiting for some replacement bogie castings to come though from Matt Chivers and then these can be finished off.
I don't think I posted a picture of this after I lettered it:
Not perfect, but not bad for a quid from Hattons.
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Re: On my Workbench - GE 50' stock.
V 4 victory.
Sorry, terrible pun........
Sorry, terrible pun........
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Re: On my Workbench - GE 50' stock.
Did not 11920 have spoked wheels? Hemingway photos (now HMRS).
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Re: On my Workbench - GE 50' stock.
It may have, Nick - I don't, until I see Andrew Hartshorne at Wakefield....11920 have spoked wheels
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Re: On my Workbench - GE 50' stock.
CCTs were painted and lettered up over the weekend. The first one was finished with Halfords Triumph Russett brown as per Peter Tatlow's recommendation in the article I cited earlier. I like this colour and have used it on a few vehicles. The second was done using Humbrol 186 with a spot of black, which ended up very close to Precision Paints' teak colour.
The smaller lettering under the number is from a set Mick commissioned from John Peck some time ago which I'm still using. There should be some route restriction lettering to the left of it but I haven't anything which looks appropriate so I've left that alone for the moment.
It was a bit cold up in the attic this weekend so I looked out a job I could do downstairs in the warm. Now, in May this year I went through about a couple of weeks where every time I saw someone I knew at a show they gave me a part-completed model suggesting I might like to have it to finish off. One of those will feature on here shortly, but on Saturday I dug out another; a pair of GN 19' vans started by Peter Simmerson "at least 25 years ago" in plastikard. They were rolling bodies, planks scribed but no detail. I reckoned there shouldn't be a huge amount of work in them, so here they are after a couple of evenings with the Evergreen strip and a magnifying glass.
White on white isn't great for seeing, I know; hopefully you get the gist. The ventilated one I will do as a fitted version; the other I thought I'd do as the unfitted CLC version, just for some variety. They came with a drawing by our very own 2512Silverfox, dated 1968 (he won't thank me for that, I'm sure) showing several different variants. I don't know where that was published, unfortunately, but it was very useful. Top work by Peter all those years ago as well; the bodies were still square and solid and corresponded to all the dimensions I checked. I imagine ABS is the only source of GN buffers these days?
The shell vents will have to be replaced with the correct pattern.
The smaller lettering under the number is from a set Mick commissioned from John Peck some time ago which I'm still using. There should be some route restriction lettering to the left of it but I haven't anything which looks appropriate so I've left that alone for the moment.
It was a bit cold up in the attic this weekend so I looked out a job I could do downstairs in the warm. Now, in May this year I went through about a couple of weeks where every time I saw someone I knew at a show they gave me a part-completed model suggesting I might like to have it to finish off. One of those will feature on here shortly, but on Saturday I dug out another; a pair of GN 19' vans started by Peter Simmerson "at least 25 years ago" in plastikard. They were rolling bodies, planks scribed but no detail. I reckoned there shouldn't be a huge amount of work in them, so here they are after a couple of evenings with the Evergreen strip and a magnifying glass.
White on white isn't great for seeing, I know; hopefully you get the gist. The ventilated one I will do as a fitted version; the other I thought I'd do as the unfitted CLC version, just for some variety. They came with a drawing by our very own 2512Silverfox, dated 1968 (he won't thank me for that, I'm sure) showing several different variants. I don't know where that was published, unfortunately, but it was very useful. Top work by Peter all those years ago as well; the bodies were still square and solid and corresponded to all the dimensions I checked. I imagine ABS is the only source of GN buffers these days?
The shell vents will have to be replaced with the correct pattern.
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Re: On my Workbench - GE 50' stock.
Some progress on the vans through this week; rivets have been added with Archer transfers, the correct torpedo roof vents are now fitted and I've given them a blow over with primer to stop the rivets falling off. Buffers are on the way from ABS and brake gear for the unfitted one will have to be picked up from Andrew H at Wakefield. The GN one will have the Mainly Trains fitted brakegear which I always have in stock so I may get onto that this weekend.
I have been busy this week but found some time to fiddle on with the CCTs as well. Following running trials at Ormesby I raised the body on the bogies very slightly to give just a bit more freedom for the bogies to rotate and pitch. There is very little space between bogie, solebar and floor.
Initially this was done with washers, but the whole vehicle developed a wobble so plastic strip spacers have been stuck to the bolsters here. You'll also see black paper stuck to the underside - that's to prevent shorting if the bogie pitches enough to put both wheels in contact with the floor at once. More black paper is stuck inside to prevent light showing up through the holes in the floor.
Peter Tatlow's article showed two different styles of window bars (no indication of why this might be) so I did one of each. The upper body here has 5 bars, the lower has 2. These are .45 wire soldered to scrap fret and Evostuck to the inside of the body.
Lastly the roof. One of these two came with a roof, the other had lost it at some time. These roofs have 3 arcs, the curve over the peak sharpening as it nears the eaves at each side. I made a plastic ceiling for the van and stuck 40 thou formers to it, carved and filed to shape against the van end. This was stuck to the roof along the top of the curve and allowed to set. Then I squeezed it gently in a vice as shown here and flooded the edges with MekPak. This was left in the vice and allowed to set overnight. I had one small section which had to be restuck but most of it has taken and the whole thing now slots into place between the ends as intended.
I have been busy this week but found some time to fiddle on with the CCTs as well. Following running trials at Ormesby I raised the body on the bogies very slightly to give just a bit more freedom for the bogies to rotate and pitch. There is very little space between bogie, solebar and floor.
Initially this was done with washers, but the whole vehicle developed a wobble so plastic strip spacers have been stuck to the bolsters here. You'll also see black paper stuck to the underside - that's to prevent shorting if the bogie pitches enough to put both wheels in contact with the floor at once. More black paper is stuck inside to prevent light showing up through the holes in the floor.
Peter Tatlow's article showed two different styles of window bars (no indication of why this might be) so I did one of each. The upper body here has 5 bars, the lower has 2. These are .45 wire soldered to scrap fret and Evostuck to the inside of the body.
Lastly the roof. One of these two came with a roof, the other had lost it at some time. These roofs have 3 arcs, the curve over the peak sharpening as it nears the eaves at each side. I made a plastic ceiling for the van and stuck 40 thou formers to it, carved and filed to shape against the van end. This was stuck to the roof along the top of the curve and allowed to set. Then I squeezed it gently in a vice as shown here and flooded the edges with MekPak. This was left in the vice and allowed to set overnight. I had one small section which had to be restuck but most of it has taken and the whole thing now slots into place between the ends as intended.
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Re: On my Workbench - GE 50' stock.
Nice work on the roof.
Hi interested in the area served by 52D. also researching colliery wagonways from same area.
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Re: On my Workbench - North Eastern.
Managed to get the CCTs all but finished - the buffers need filing down (there is a cutoff at the top to allow the falling end door to open). This also shows that some of my Araldite didn't stick properly and the internal bars have slid down at one side on one van. Naturally this disguised itself until after I'd stuck the roof on so this side promises to be very dirty indeed.
Now a little teaser. I've been working on these all week but need some bits from Wakefield to get them complete enough to be worth putting up. So while I'm enjoying myself shunting all weekend - come and say hello if you're there - can you guess what it is?
Scottiedog need not answer - he ought to recognise it.
Now a little teaser. I've been working on these all week but need some bits from Wakefield to get them complete enough to be worth putting up. So while I'm enjoying myself shunting all weekend - come and say hello if you're there - can you guess what it is?
Scottiedog need not answer - he ought to recognise it.
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Re: On my Workbench - North Eastern.
Is that some sort of coach panelling I can see?
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Re: On my Workbench - North Eastern.
Blimey JW, I've been missing out on what you've done since 7th Nov - I must have looked in every time your work was NOT part of the most recent dozen or so! I love those vans with the meticulously modelled sliding end shutters.
I've no idea on that latest "guess the object" picture, but form might make me wonder whether it is another variety of nag wagon (sorry, I mean of course a box for the noble beast).
I've no idea on that latest "guess the object" picture, but form might make me wonder whether it is another variety of nag wagon (sorry, I mean of course a box for the noble beast).
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Re: On my Workbench - North Eastern.
Spoil sport! It is probably the only question I can right on the Forum! See you at Wakefield on Saturday. Following Peter's fall, Martin nearly got me roped in to help on Marske. Do you need any more whitemetal LNER guards van duckets? I got a bag full,here.
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Re: On my Workbench - North Eastern.
I'll have a couple of duckets if I may. I'll be at Wakefiled too. No immediately obvious need for them, but you never know.....
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