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Re: Atlantic's works: Ore hoppers cont'd, P2 chassis mods st

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jwealleans wrote:Of course it was in the (19)30s ...

Wasn't it always sunny then?
Of course! The sun always shone on those suffering from poor economic decision making and world-wide financial recklessness; and of course the sunshine served to highlight the war clouds building in the east...... Actually, it's cloudy and wet here today! Perhaps I should be grateful. Views of history are always interesting. Humans are very selective in what we like to remember, and shiny or even grimy steam engines are so much nicer to think about!

(Now I'll stop making general points on Mr King's thread.)

Would it be possible to ask what approach is planned for the cylinder covers? It has always struck me that this would be difficult to get right. (Although I do have a spare GBL Mallard at the ready.)
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davidwest wrote: why did ET have to meddle with that!!!!
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For the cylinder covers on 2003 I'm considering nothing more than sticking on an extra square of 10 thou plastic and adding a smooth ramp of filler above and in front. There seem to be plenty of waves in the plating caught by the reflections in that recent upper picture of 2004, so I think I'll have an excuse for any minor imperfections that result. I'm not worried about losing the moulded joint-lines in the A4 donor-piece as they are not in quite the right places anyway.
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drmditch wrote:
davidwest wrote: why did ET have to meddle with that!!!!
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Thanks. TBH though I meant it as a rhetorical question. I model the ECML in the 1959- 62 period. When the P2's had long been converted. I can't justify one. I know the arguements its my railway etc etc... But
never mind.
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Looking even better Graeme, the more you do the more I what to get back to my bench

And I have an idea (for another hack bash for a point in time) following on from your P2 with a nose job, what have you done with the removed part with the defectors on? would you be looking to re-house it?

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And I have an idea (for another hack bash for a point in time) following on from your P2 with a nose job, what have you done with the removed part with the defectors on? would you be looking to re-house it?

oOo

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Do I smell a 1934 version of an A4 with Caprotti Valve gear?

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Mercator II wrote:Looking even better Graeme, the more you do the more I what to get back to my bench

And I have an idea (for another hack bash for a point in time) following on from your P2 with a nose job, what have you done with the removed part with the defectors on? would you be looking to re-house it?

oOo

Brian

I'm thinking a possible reuse on one of the Peppercorn 1946 proposals?
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Anything weird or unusual will catch my interest, be it an express or locomotive

I'm also drawn to the commemorative, let's hope Bachmann will produce 6165 Valour.
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Flying Fox 34F wrote:And I have an idea (for another hack bash for a point in time) following on from your P2 with a nose job, what have you done with the removed part with the defectors on? would you be looking to re-house it?

oOo

Brian

Do I smell a 1934 version of an A4 with Caprotti Valve gear?

Paul 4475[/quote]

Nope, another never wazzer proposal as drawn by another member of this parish

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Whilst operating Waterloo Road over the weekend at Peterborough I had sneaked my unfinished Earl Marischal onto the 1960-ish BR layout as a Sunday afternoon piece of silliness. I was quite puzzled but tried to remain polite and helpful when one visitor asked me, apparently seriously, why the cylinders were "painted" white.....

Work on the P2s will have to be suspended now owing to the other things that I need to do. Before I put them aside for a rest however, I thought that even if Earl Marischal will have to be taken apart again if resin duplication of conversion parts is to be tried, and will subsequently need a proper spray-painted overall finish, it would be nice just to get a clearer impression of the likely final look. Quick brush application of some almost-matching green mixture, some black, and some dull red set me up for taking these photographs.
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G'Day Gents

Jeez, they were big thumping engines, look meaner the the Bugatti fronted ones, nice work.

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The temporary paint finish on 2002 looks even uglier in this daylight picture, but it serves to demonstrate that the provision of steam pipe covers has not been forgotten, even if I overlooked them last night:
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I include the next picture simply as visible proof that a smokebox door can be pushed out of a Hornby P2 without wrecking things. This one looked from within suspiciously solidly glued, the deep rebate on its rear edge appearing to have plenty of evidence of having been thoroughly coated in glue. When I first started pushing around the very close-fitting curved parts of the rebate joint, it seemed as if nothing was willing to move. I then started pushing at the flat top part of the rebate joint and thought I could see very slight flexing of the door relative to the main body moulding. On slipping the flat blade of a large jewellers screwdriver into the flat part of the (internal) joint towards one end, and giving it a slight twist, the faint sound of cracking glue arose. I repeated this at the other end of the door top joint. One more push lower down and the undamaged door came out of the undamaged hole in the body with a further faint cracking sound. I only bother to mention this and show the result as anybody wishing to try to alter the top hinge and create a proper vertical hinge-pin will no doubt find access vastly better with the door clear of the arched tops of the smoke deflectors.
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In answer to an earlier question, I'll need to hang on to that separated nose section for the time being until I decide whether to try hinge modifications. If all works well I should still finish up with a spare, up for grabs, but only time will tell.
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Graeme

Thanks for showing that the smokebox door can be removed - I'll have go on my main range version in de course to enable easier removal of handrail and lamp iron and maybe tackle the hinges.

Keep up the good work!

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A modest development on the P2 front this morning. Replacement Hornby disc wheels fitted to the tenders for 2002/3. The wheels came from EAST KENT MODELS by the way, who STILL HAVEN'T GONE OUT OF BUSINESS despite many ill-informed people saying that they finished a year ago. They were cheaper than that other spares firm's prices too....
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A little free time has allowed me to chip away further at P2 project. Although I used Comet V2 combination levers and union links on 2002, 2003 posed a problem as the uncertainty over the future of Comet and the fact that I'm down to my last set of said parts meant that I wanted to hang on to those for the time being. A change to the etched sheets of A2 conversion valve gear that Morgan and I created may be in the offing at some stage, but that didn't solve my current problem. So, I made up a pair of combination levers from some 1.5mm wide N/S strip, 0.35mm thick if I remember correctly, bought from Hobby Holidays at Peterborough show. I drilled holes to match the Comet parts then filed down the sides of the strip a bit to get a slim enough look to the levers. The same strip should suffice for making another reversing rod too. I simplified the problem of the unsuitable-for-Walschaerts crossheads supplied with 2001 in this case by making a combined representation of the drop link and union link for each side. These were cut from pieces of etch waste, complete with a rudimentary representation of the fluting of the union link scribed-in. I'll try fitting these parts this evening.
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