Rob's 7mm Rolling Stock Workbench
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Re: 7mm Rolling Stock Builds
I mentioned previously that I took advantage of a Skytrex wagon load offer over Christmas. Among those that I bought were a couple of loads of carbouys. I sprayed them a while ago with a base coat of Vallejo matt earth but it took until last weekend to get any detail paint on them.
The look that I wanted was the dark green glass that I remember from my youth.
In the flesh I think that I have achieved it but they were quite difficult to photograph. I used Vallejo bronze green covered over by a couple of thick coats of the original Johnsons Klear - I stocked up before they changed the recipe. The woodwork and straw packing is Vallejo Bleached Bone with a drop of Model Air New Wood mixed in.
The look that I wanted was the dark green glass that I remember from my youth.
In the flesh I think that I have achieved it but they were quite difficult to photograph. I used Vallejo bronze green covered over by a couple of thick coats of the original Johnsons Klear - I stocked up before they changed the recipe. The woodwork and straw packing is Vallejo Bleached Bone with a drop of Model Air New Wood mixed in.
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This weekend saw much progress on the lime wagon - the light was so poor I didn't try to do any painting or weathering, with one small exception. I painted the sole bars of the lime wagon once I had finished them in an attempt to make photography easier. I am not sure that I succeeded though.....
I still need to trim back the roof lathes and make the retaining chains for the door catches but then fingers crossed it a coat of primer.
I found it quite therapeutic filing up all the details for the solebars - all were done holing the part in smooth jawed pliers while filing with a small emery board (the type that ladies use for their nails - I get packs of them for about 60p from Boyes Stores).
I still need to trim back the roof lathes and make the retaining chains for the door catches but then fingers crossed it a coat of primer.
I found it quite therapeutic filing up all the details for the solebars - all were done holing the part in smooth jawed pliers while filing with a small emery board (the type that ladies use for their nails - I get packs of them for about 60p from Boyes Stores).
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In between progressing the lime wagon last weekend I also finished painting my last Skytrex wagon load which is a set of pipes.
I have struggled to get some decent photos that show that they do actually look like ceramic pipes - achieved by painting them with artists acrylic terracotta (which I managed to get to spray without problem by thinning with Tamiya thinners). This was then painted with a couple of layers of Johnsons clear to get that deep sheen that you get on glazed ceramic pipes.
I may need to scratch build a pipe wagon (if I can find a shortish prototype - the load is designed to fit a 10' wagon). I have a Connoisseur Pipe wagon kit in the stash but having looked at the size of one when built up this load would be dwarfed by it I think.
I have struggled to get some decent photos that show that they do actually look like ceramic pipes - achieved by painting them with artists acrylic terracotta (which I managed to get to spray without problem by thinning with Tamiya thinners). This was then painted with a couple of layers of Johnsons clear to get that deep sheen that you get on glazed ceramic pipes.
I may need to scratch build a pipe wagon (if I can find a shortish prototype - the load is designed to fit a 10' wagon). I have a Connoisseur Pipe wagon kit in the stash but having looked at the size of one when built up this load would be dwarfed by it I think.
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Still on the theme of wagon loads, while at a recent show (O gauge North West at Manchester I think) I noticed a demo of a Gent making a timber load from strips of Microstrip which looked quite interesting. It gave me an idea for a use for a box of coffee stirrers that I bought from eBay a few years ago.
Before seeing the demo to make such a stack of timber I would have cut some coffee stirrers to length and then glued them all together into a stack. What this gent did was make a hollow stack with short pieces in place at the ends. In terms of what I planned it would not only use less coffee stirrers but also allow me to make use of the cut rounded ends which would otherwise be surplus.
I started by using a 7mm scale rule and a square to cut 14 stirrers to a scale 16’ long (they were a scale 20’ overall allowing for 2’ to be cut from each end. These were then stuck together 2 high by 7 wide to make a base. To glue them together I used Crafters Pick PVA superglue. This is much thicker than normal PVA and gives a good grab for all sorts of things.
Next using the cut rounded ends and some lengths of some sticks that were not straight/flat I built up the ends and some inner supports
Finally finishing with a lid the same as the base.
The stirrers that I used for this trial scale out at 11” wide boards and I plan to make some more with smaller scale boards using the same techniques but scoring the top boards and the ends to represent narrower finished boards.
Before seeing the demo to make such a stack of timber I would have cut some coffee stirrers to length and then glued them all together into a stack. What this gent did was make a hollow stack with short pieces in place at the ends. In terms of what I planned it would not only use less coffee stirrers but also allow me to make use of the cut rounded ends which would otherwise be surplus.
I started by using a 7mm scale rule and a square to cut 14 stirrers to a scale 16’ long (they were a scale 20’ overall allowing for 2’ to be cut from each end. These were then stuck together 2 high by 7 wide to make a base. To glue them together I used Crafters Pick PVA superglue. This is much thicker than normal PVA and gives a good grab for all sorts of things.
Next using the cut rounded ends and some lengths of some sticks that were not straight/flat I built up the ends and some inner supports
Finally finishing with a lid the same as the base.
The stirrers that I used for this trial scale out at 11” wide boards and I plan to make some more with smaller scale boards using the same techniques but scoring the top boards and the ends to represent narrower finished boards.
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Re: 7mm Rolling Stock Builds
and there was me thinking one could only use coffee stirrers for spacers when soldering, particularly useful for brake hangers!!
Clever idea from you both.
Paul
Clever idea from you both.
Paul
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I wish we had a "Like" button!
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Thanks Gents.
Over the weekend I managed to get the lime wagon ready for it's transfers - I just need to make them...
On Saturday Chris and I had a wander down to Shildon to see Doug, Graham and the gang who had their test track up. I took Severn and my Y6 along for a run both of them pulling the lime wagon.
http://youtu.be/bDaCBTcD2EI
http://youtu.be/p_a1d8p5zVI
Over the weekend I managed to get the lime wagon ready for it's transfers - I just need to make them...
On Saturday Chris and I had a wander down to Shildon to see Doug, Graham and the gang who had their test track up. I took Severn and my Y6 along for a run both of them pulling the lime wagon.
http://youtu.be/bDaCBTcD2EI
http://youtu.be/p_a1d8p5zVI
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This weekend's endeavours was the build of a Parkside NBR 4 plank open wagon with side doors.
A look through Tatlow volume 3 revealed that these wagons came as 3 and 4 plank, fixed sides, drop sides and the side door versions which is a nice amount of variety - and prompted me to make a start on the body of drop door version. My idea is to buy some set of underframe sprues from Parkside (and perhaps some buffer sets). The kit itself is a nice kit if a little basic which works for me - again Tatlow revealing more details to be added from plastic strip etc.
The rope hooks are made from some brass pins that I bought a few years ago that have odd shaped heads. Odd shaped in the the heads are lop sided and no amount of turning will make them round and sat square on the ends of the pins for use as bolts or rivets etc. A recent experiment had me annealing the head, then squashing it in a pair of smooth jawed pliers before drilling a hole in the end and using them as eye bolts. In this case a cross pin was soldered in to give a representation of the rope hooks. I also carved off the moulded horse hooks and added a piece of bent wire.
The chain and pin for the brake lever guard are made from plastic rod/fine brass wire - again the end squashed and cross drilled. What is interesting is that on many of these wagons the chain is attached to the lever itself at one end.
More plastic strip was added for the top capping.
And finally a couple of shots of progress on the dropside version
A look through Tatlow volume 3 revealed that these wagons came as 3 and 4 plank, fixed sides, drop sides and the side door versions which is a nice amount of variety - and prompted me to make a start on the body of drop door version. My idea is to buy some set of underframe sprues from Parkside (and perhaps some buffer sets). The kit itself is a nice kit if a little basic which works for me - again Tatlow revealing more details to be added from plastic strip etc.
The rope hooks are made from some brass pins that I bought a few years ago that have odd shaped heads. Odd shaped in the the heads are lop sided and no amount of turning will make them round and sat square on the ends of the pins for use as bolts or rivets etc. A recent experiment had me annealing the head, then squashing it in a pair of smooth jawed pliers before drilling a hole in the end and using them as eye bolts. In this case a cross pin was soldered in to give a representation of the rope hooks. I also carved off the moulded horse hooks and added a piece of bent wire.
The chain and pin for the brake lever guard are made from plastic rod/fine brass wire - again the end squashed and cross drilled. What is interesting is that on many of these wagons the chain is attached to the lever itself at one end.
More plastic strip was added for the top capping.
And finally a couple of shots of progress on the dropside version
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I had a few days off this week which has allowed progress on quite a few items.
The first is a long time shelf queen - a Slaters Tar tank. I even got a coat of paint on the tank and then made a complete hash of applying the transfers so I will need to repaint one of the panels and obtain some more Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Tar distillers transfers - anyone want to swap for some Walkers or Shell Mex/BP?
I made a while back a discharge pipe for a class B tank that I am scratch building (another shelf queen but completing this one gets the wagon shelf queens down to three!) having spent a while making it I discovered that it wouldn't fit but the good news is it fits this one perfectly.
The first is a long time shelf queen - a Slaters Tar tank. I even got a coat of paint on the tank and then made a complete hash of applying the transfers so I will need to repaint one of the panels and obtain some more Yorkshire and Lincolnshire Tar distillers transfers - anyone want to swap for some Walkers or Shell Mex/BP?
I made a while back a discharge pipe for a class B tank that I am scratch building (another shelf queen but completing this one gets the wagon shelf queens down to three!) having spent a while making it I discovered that it wouldn't fit but the good news is it fits this one perfectly.
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I made some real progress with the lime wagon over the weekend and it now just needs a little weathering to tone down the newness. The home made transfers have worked a treat.
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Next passed the finish post is the GCR/LNER CCT.
And of course its only when you take the photos that you notice the buffer heads - they have been blackened but nothing further and they still seem a bit too shiny.
And of course its only when you take the photos that you notice the buffer heads - they have been blackened but nothing further and they still seem a bit too shiny.
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Despite having failed miserably with the tar tank transfers I had more success with the NBR open.
To ad a little variety I decided to do this one in NBR livery - according to Tatlow it seems that quite a few NBR wagons made it to the mid 30's still in NBR livery (that and I have a few sets of NBR transfers and it would be a shame not to use any of them).
Further following the photo in Tatlow I even managed to find some small enough black transfers to add the paint date in the crescent.
I have tried several methods to get weathered but unpainted wood for wagon interiors and this is the one that I am most happy with so far. I had an exchange of emails with Bob Alderman after seeing his superbly weathered cattle wagon on the guild gallery. Bob's suggested method was build up lots of dry brushing, this was done with various shades of bleached bone, rotting flesh etc. before being finished with a wash of much diluted Dark Sea Grey.
I just need to finish weathering the outside now, more of the same...
To ad a little variety I decided to do this one in NBR livery - according to Tatlow it seems that quite a few NBR wagons made it to the mid 30's still in NBR livery (that and I have a few sets of NBR transfers and it would be a shame not to use any of them).
Further following the photo in Tatlow I even managed to find some small enough black transfers to add the paint date in the crescent.
I have tried several methods to get weathered but unpainted wood for wagon interiors and this is the one that I am most happy with so far. I had an exchange of emails with Bob Alderman after seeing his superbly weathered cattle wagon on the guild gallery. Bob's suggested method was build up lots of dry brushing, this was done with various shades of bleached bone, rotting flesh etc. before being finished with a wash of much diluted Dark Sea Grey.
I just need to finish weathering the outside now, more of the same...
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The final item that I completed in the last week is the Gladiator Beer van.
A recent discovery in the Vallejo Model Colour range was Dark Sea Grey and Leather Brown, which work very well as an acrylic substitute for the Tarmac and Matt Leather that seem to be favoured by many as weathering staples.
A recent discovery in the Vallejo Model Colour range was Dark Sea Grey and Leather Brown, which work very well as an acrylic substitute for the Tarmac and Matt Leather that seem to be favoured by many as weathering staples.
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Help, I've become a bolt counter.....
During the last two trips up north while waiting for underframe parts from Parkside for the NBR wagons I made a start on a conversion of a Slaters Gloucester 5 Plank open to this -
During the last two trips up north while waiting for underframe parts from Parkside for the NBR wagons I made a start on a conversion of a Slaters Gloucester 5 Plank open to this -
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A bit of work over the weekend saw the locker wagon ready for the paint shop - I just need to sort out some screw couplings and make sure they fit before I prime it.
The wagon plates were filed up from plasticard using some LNER plates as a size guide.
The wagon plates were filed up from plasticard using some LNER plates as a size guide.