James' workbench- ex-GC locos and stock in OO

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James Harrison
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Re: James' workbench- ex-GC locos and stock in OO

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Work is slowly progressing with the Jersey Lily; my spare time at present is a little sparse due to my having bought a classic car a few months ago :shock:

So; since the last update, I've fitted new pickups to the chassis and a new drawbar. The awful clunky boiler handrail has been removed, the handrail knobs discarded, and the locating holes bored out, so as to accept new split pins (I've decided with this model to go for a 'like for like' approach to replacing parts). A new handrail has been fabricated from brass wire and proves to be a nice snug fit in the split pins.

Basically this now leaves lining out and painting the handrail as the larger jobs to do on the loco itself; the cab could also benefit from a lick of paint. As to the tender? Not even begun yet....
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Finally, some photos!

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Of course, there's quite a list of things still to finish (not least of which, the tender), but it's on the home stretch, I hope.
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With the locomotive now practically complete, attention shifted to the tender.

With using a Hornby Patriot for the chassis, the intention had always been to use a tender drive unit for this model, so a Hornby 8F tender was bought. I had been expecting to be able to use only the motor and chassis from this, and to have to completely scratchbuild the tender tank, however comparison with a scale drawing suggested that this may not be the case.

The tender chassis itself is around 4mm too long, and although this could be reduced by shaving off the odd mm or two from the front and rear the tender itself still would not be right as the tender tank could not be built to scale dimensions, due to the weights cast into the chassis at either end of the motor. You would end up with a scale length chassis fitted with an overlength tank, which I reckon would be as bad as, if not worse, than a flat-out overlength tender.

So I compromised. I accepted an overall length of 4mm too long, but by cutting out 3mm of the moulded tender tank I was able to get the tender tank to look about right in length in relation to the chassis. I had to reduce the tender tank in height down to the level of the flat tank top to the rear, and then I was able to reinforce the two halves of the tank by filling the joint with milliput and gluing a decent sheet of 0.5mm plastic over the joint on the inside.

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A new front bulkhead and coal space was then fabricated out of the plastic sheet, using the GBL 'Butler Henderson' tender as a guide. This same tender was also used to trace around the coal rails- a much neater result than my usual tracing over a drawing, then transferring that tracing to plastic sheet.

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It's probably about three-quarters finished now, much of the actual fabrication work is complete and the challenge I expect will be getting the finish, tone and sheen of the paintwork of the plastic tender to match that of the whitemetal locomotive...

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Aargh, the cruelties of a close-in shot...
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'King Edward VII' is now about finished to my satisfaction. There are a couple of smaller jobs to do of course (fitting a crew for instance) but these can wait and be done as and when....

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G'day Gents

Looks good. :wink:

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That's a nice tidy model of a stunning prototype! Well done James! 8)
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Thank you!

The next project (yes, already thinking about starting that!) is most likely going to be an 'Immingham' in GCR black. Off the top of my head, I can't recall seeing any models of that class as they appeared between about 1910 and 1923. They always seem to be finished in 1906 GCR green or post-1923 LNER green.
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Right, on to GCR class 8F no.1102.

Late last year I was able to find on ebay a pair of beat-up old McGowan Models kits; both had been built and painted plain black, both lacked chassis, wheels, motor and tender. One of these I have recently rebuilt and finished as a compound Jersey Lily. The other is the subject of this project.

Having secured the body, I decided to use a modern Hornby B12 chassis underneath it, as I had one sitting in my spares box. The issue of finding a tender was solved when a BEC D10 tender came up on ebay.

To get the chassis to fit comfortably, I had to remove some fairly large chunks of the motor mount and some small chunks of metal from the loco body; I then found that the body sat too low anyway and had to pack it back up again with plastic sheet...

I then removed the snifting valves, safety valves and the remnant of the original whistle from the loco, and fitted new safety valves from my spares box. Then the rainstrips down the sides of the cab were carefully filed away, and replacements in plastic strip begun.

Currently then, the model looks like this...

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After a bit of a break, a few 'good but not right' attempts at lining and a fair bit of headscratching, swearing and going off in a huff, I've nearly finished a model that actually looks (to my eye at least) acceptable.

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The main difficulty I've encountered is that you can't buy lining transfers suitable for GCR black livery. I would have thought that somebody would produce red-white-black-white lining, even if just straight lengths and 90-degree corners, but no.... surprising really considering how the same livery was used by a couple of other companies.

The only alternative of course is to do my own lining... something I hate! I decided to use the same technique I used for my 11B earlier this year, scanning the model into photomanipulation software and drawing the lining up on a computer before printing it off as a transfer. The problem I then ran into was that drawing it all to scale and then printing it off proved beyond the capabilities of my printer- lines blurred or were over printed. Increasing the scale to stop this just didn't work, as you can well imagine, so I went back and simplified the lining a little. A compromise, but it works for my specified 18 inch rule.
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Finished, for a given value of that...

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Transfers are new-old stock provided by Quainton Road Models; the carrier film is quite obvious so after a few coats of varnish I used a calligraphy pen and Indian ink to obsure it a little.

I'm quite pleased with how it's turned out.

Next up; GCR #424 'City of Lincoln' as she appeared from August 1922. My research so far (such as it is- perusing my books on GCR locos) suggests that she was fitted for oil firing in 1921 and retained the equipment until after Grouping- the Green Bible shows a photo of her with an oil bunker as late as 1926. Assuming that to be correct it could be one for the 'unusual models' file.
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Post by earlswood nob »

Good morning all

I find the posts on GCR engines very interesting.

For you interest, Oil burning:
All B2's except City of Manchester were fitted for oil burning in 1921. This was removed in September/October 1921, but reused in 1926/7 when the following were fitted:
Sir Sam Fay & City of Lincoln fitted in July 1926
City of Chester & City of Liverpool were fitted in August 1926
These oil burning units were all removed in March 1927.

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Aha; thanks (on the plus side I now don't have to add a fairly unsightly oil tank to the tender).
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So, hot on the heels of #1102, I've started work on what will eventually be #424 'City of Lincoln'.

I bought the model from that well-known internet auction site, already built and finished as #427 'City of London', but as with everything I get involved with this was never going to be a simple renaming/ renumbering job. There were/ are a few things I'd like to improve, such as the wiring between pickups and motor (at the present it runs through the cab) and I felt that the paint finish was quite thick. I quickly found out why this is so- there are two coats of primer and three different finishes to the model, one atop the other- no wonder the final paint coat looked so uneven.

After 48 hours in paint stripper and quite a lot of patient work with sandpaper, files, a glass fibre brush, tweezers, a craft knife and a stiff brush, I have the model pretty much back to bare metal and ready for priming.

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Re: James' workbench- ex-GC locos and stock in OO

Post by S.A.C. Martin »

James, I've showed your pictures by way of my iPhone to a friend who is a GCR fan and was very impressed with your ideas. He's now trying a few of these himself and I have prepared a Patriot chassis for him accordingly. Please know we might not always comment but I'm sure we all enjoy reading about your work. Keep it up - every new project brings improvements and new ways of doing things. :)
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There seem to be quite a few old McGowan GC loco kits filtering onto eBay at the moment, including a B5.
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