2750 (Tom's) Workbench-North Eastern Modelling 1938
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Ay up, Tom!
Was that your wallet I heard scampering out of the door?
Was that your wallet I heard scampering out of the door?
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yep wallet has disappeared out the door...and headed for the nearest port!Blink Bonny wrote:Ay up, Tom!
Was that your wallet I heard scampering out of the door?
Better not mention the thoughts on a future J25....!
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Modelling the North Eastern Area of the LNER - 1935-1939
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Ay up!
you need a Black Country wench. She's tamed mine...
you need a Black Country wench. She's tamed mine...
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With newly home-made bigger cylinders, fitted where they ought to be rather than adjusted to miss the bogie, plus one or two other cosmetic tweaks, I thought that even the original Hornby D49 scrubbed up quite well - for its day. I'm very much hoping that the expected loco-drive Railroad chassis, with nicer new wheels to a finer modern profile, will NOT have horrible rubber tyres, as I'd love to swap one into my "Lincolnshire" and get rid of the Ringfield tender drive and surplus loco body + chassis via eBay or suchlike. A set of Comet motion ought to then just about give me the nice D49 I really wanted, and as ever, on a budget.
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Hmmm an interesting thought....doing (my version) York...certainly don't have a shortage of D49s....oh and B16s....love B16s!Atlantic 3279 wrote:With newly home-made bigger cylinders, fitted where they ought to be rather than adjusted to miss the bogie, plus one or two other cosmetic tweaks, I thought that even the original Hornby D49 scrubbed up quite well - for its day. I'm very much hoping that the expected loco-drive Railroad chassis, with nicer new wheels to a finer modern profile, will NOT have horrible rubber tyres, as I'd love to swap one into my "Lincolnshire" and get rid of the Ringfield tender drive and surplus loco body + chassis via eBay or suchlike. A set of Comet motion ought to then just about give me the nice D49 I really wanted, and as ever, on a budget.
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Afternoon all
Well, on this Cold damp Saturday, I decided to go ahead and weather one of my new layouts pacifcs.
Below is 60045 'LEMBERG' renumbered from a 'PRINCE PALATINE' model.
60045 is a 52A loco...so yes, not many cleaners.... so I've tried to weather her in an appearance which reflects her say, 4-5 months out of Doncaster, and receiving her Blue livery...but being Gateshed...the filth is very much apparent.
I weathered her with airbursh, then steaking/removing with thinners and a brush, then with brushed with Johnsons Klear, before then being airbrushed again, and more muck removed, finally poweders were used on top to give the effect of smoke on the boiler top.
Quite pleased with her, just shame the suns not out. and apologise the pictures aren't as sharp as they could do...due to the fact it's finely raining, I tried to grab them quick, and then get back inside!
Tom
Well, on this Cold damp Saturday, I decided to go ahead and weather one of my new layouts pacifcs.
Below is 60045 'LEMBERG' renumbered from a 'PRINCE PALATINE' model.
60045 is a 52A loco...so yes, not many cleaners.... so I've tried to weather her in an appearance which reflects her say, 4-5 months out of Doncaster, and receiving her Blue livery...but being Gateshed...the filth is very much apparent.
I weathered her with airbursh, then steaking/removing with thinners and a brush, then with brushed with Johnsons Klear, before then being airbrushed again, and more muck removed, finally poweders were used on top to give the effect of smoke on the boiler top.
Quite pleased with her, just shame the suns not out. and apologise the pictures aren't as sharp as they could do...due to the fact it's finely raining, I tried to grab them quick, and then get back inside!
Tom
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Nice job on Lemberg, I hope the proposed B16 wont be pristine
Hi interested in the area served by 52D. also researching colliery wagonways from same area.
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Thanks 52D ah the B16 wont be filthy but certainly wont be pristine either52D wrote:Nice job on Lemberg, I hope the proposed B16 wont be pristine
Tom
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A neat job of the weathering there. Shame about Hornby's motion though......That expansion link needs well shortening.
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Ay up!
I agree with coachmann on the valve gear. A pity on an otherwise faultless (to me, anyway! ) model. The weathering looks A1 though, Tom. Good on yer.
Atlantic, you've got me thinking with that D49 project. I wonder what I could do with the Compound coming out in the same range...
I agree with coachmann on the valve gear. A pity on an otherwise faultless (to me, anyway! ) model. The weathering looks A1 though, Tom. Good on yer.
Atlantic, you've got me thinking with that D49 project. I wonder what I could do with the Compound coming out in the same range...
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Hmmm for some reason it was set wrong on my model, I've tweaked it and it's now like the rest. Is that what you were alluding to coachman? Or is it generally wrong on the Hornby models?coachmann wrote:A neat job of the weathering there. Shame about Hornby's motion though......That expansion link needs well shortening.
Tom
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Tom,B1 Tom wrote:Hmmm for some reason it was set wrong on my model, I've tweaked it and it's now like the rest. Is that what you were alluding to coachman? Or is it generally wrong on the Hornby models?coachmann wrote:A neat job of the weathering there. Shame about Hornby's motion though......That expansion link needs well shortening.
Tom
Generally wrong on all Hornby A3s from what I can tell. The other little issue that still hasn't improved centres around the motion brackets. See here for what I mean.
It's all down to how Hornby have done their pressed motion brackets which moves the slightly too long expansion link further down than it needs to be. If it helps matters, they didn't do a great job on their Royal Scots either - the eccentric rods are quite a bit on the long side!
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Tim
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Has it been done semi on purpose to make things move more for visual effects?
Its good to know where you stand. Saves making a fool of yourself later......
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Ay up!
I suspect meself its a combination of ease of production and Chinese design. After all, every drawing of a Stanier LMS tender shows a small segment of straight beading between the curves on the tender back. I have only seen this on a real tender following the rebodying of a few. No "Genuine" LMS/BR built tender I've ever seen has anything other than a smooth "S" shaped curve at the rear of the coal space.
HAve a look at a Mainline, Bachmann or modern Hornby tender. Shudder. And its not wasy to put right...
I suspect meself its a combination of ease of production and Chinese design. After all, every drawing of a Stanier LMS tender shows a small segment of straight beading between the curves on the tender back. I have only seen this on a real tender following the rebodying of a few. No "Genuine" LMS/BR built tender I've ever seen has anything other than a smooth "S" shaped curve at the rear of the coal space.
HAve a look at a Mainline, Bachmann or modern Hornby tender. Shudder. And its not wasy to put right...
If I ain't here, I'm in Bilston, scoffing decent chips at last!!!!
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The obvious chassis (to me) is the Schools under a D49. I bought a new Hornby D49 body and tender (very good mouldings they are too) but cried off buying a Schools just for its chassis.Atlantic, you've got me thinking with that D49 project. I wonder what I could do with the Compound coming out in the same range...