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I have added a new collection featuring the Gresley 02 class including different variants

http://railway-photography.smugmug.com/ ... &k=VkJXqcf

some help needed with locations please

regards

Neil

Neil,
first photograph which is of 63923 Gresley 02-1 is at Grantham looking from Platform 5 with the old coaling stage in the background and the large water tower behind that in the background, looking towards Huntingtower Road.
Regards, Derek.

Neil,
just love photograph No.2 of 63928, its brilliant. However the shed is not one I can easily identify,but some information on the Loco may help.

Gresley O2 63928.


Gresley O2 63928 was built in 07/1921 as O2/1 but rebuilt with side-window cab, Group Standard 4200 gallon tender and reduced boiler mountings. Then rebuilt by BR as an O2/4. (Dates Unknown)

Shed allocated to:- Date from

New England 07/1921
Doncaster 06/09/1943
Colwick 23/01/1944
New England 17/01/1945
Colwick 25/06/1945
Doncaster 09/12/1945
Langwith Junction 24/11/1946
Doncaster 25/06/1950
Grantham 26/11/1961
Withdrawn 08/09/1963

In the photograph the Late Crest is fitted so I would suggest from 1958 onwards and by this time she had been re-built again as an O2/4.

The Turntable may be a help to identifying the shed, but I suspect we could be looking at on of the Retford sheds or Frodingham. (Just a guess.)
The turntable is I believe the style of turntable built by the Carlisle firm of Cowans & Sheldon, and which were to be found at many of the loco depots in the UK, including Kings Cross, Haymarket (Edinburgh), Camden, Crewe and Carnforth.
They were powered by vacuum motors, the vacuum being derived from the steam locomotive's ejector. Some were fitted with huge tanks, as shown in the photograph, to enable "dead" locos to be turned, or those not equipped with vacuum braking system. They were technically known as articulated tables, being hinged across the centre so as to distribute the weight of the loco between the two sets of carrying wheels and the centre bearing.

Regards, Derek.

63928 was rebuilt to O2/4 (100A boiler fitted) in 7/61 according to the green guide. Looks like the the loco, although not transferred to Grantham straightaway, is still in pretty much ex works condition. Not an entirely straightforward conversion, it was not the last to be treated but seems to be, with hindsight, another example of the inexplicable policy at the time - see the posts about J38s. While all the remaining O2s were withdrawn en bloc in 9/63 (the last O2/4 rebuild being in 1/62) some pretty rundown O4s lasted out steam on the ER.

The images of 63928 are taken at 36A Doncaster Carr Loco shed. North (station) end of the shed yard. Hyde Park Cemetery in the background. The turntable was installed there very late in the day - into the early 1960's from memory. Prior to that locos were turned on a triangle at the east side of the shed.
DG
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The reason the 02 locos went before the 01 and 04 classes was mainly due to geography. The Doncaster and Sheffield districts were due to be fully dieselised after the Kings Cross district and transferring the class to depots where there were enough recently shopped engines of other classes was not really an option.

ER shopped their 04 locomotives for classifieds right up to the end of the 1962 so there were plenty of potentially good engines left to see steam out.

1H was 2E wrote:63928 was rebuilt to O2/4 (100A boiler fitted) in 7/61 according to the green guide. Looks like the the loco, although not transferred to Grantham straightaway, is still in pretty much ex works condition. Not an entirely straightforward conversion, it was not the last to be treated but seems to be, with hindsight, another example of the inexplicable policy at the time - see the posts about J38s. While all the remaining O2s were withdrawn en bloc in 9/63 (the last O2/4 rebuild being in 1/62) some pretty rundown O4s lasted out steam on the ER.

That inexplicable policy was even more extreme at times. I'm sure I have seen photos of an ex-works K2, and possibly a K3, standing amidst other locos on a shed scrap line somewhere.

Many thanks for the info regarding locations

regards

Neil