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Any thoughts on what this carriage might be?

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:05 pm
by 2562
The picture was taken at Louth Station in the 1950s.

Re: Any thoughts on what this carriage might be?

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:45 pm
by jwealleans
I'll start.... Howlden, ex-GNR? Is your photo in the earlier 1950s? I think these vanished in fairly short order once newer non-corridor coaches began to cascade down.

Re: Any thoughts on what this carriage might be?

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:48 am
by 2562
That's certainly a help - it gives me a clue as to which diagram book I should be looking in.

'Fraid I've got no other details to help, early 50's sounds likely.

Re: Any thoughts on what this carriage might be?

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:31 am
by notascoobie
Good Morning,

The LNER built a couple some 4-carriage articulated sets from Howlden bogie stock and these ran around the Louth area in the 1950s. There's a photo of one set about half way through "The East Licolnshire Railway" by Alf Ludlam. I don't think that set matches your photo, although I believe there were detail differences between sets. I also believe that the 4-carriage sets lasted longer than their singleton classmates.

I hope that helps.

Regards,

Vernon

Re: Any thoughts on what this carriage might be?

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:19 pm
by Mickey
It has a slight G.N.R. look about it or maybe it's off the Hull & Barnsley railway?.

Re: Any thoughts on what this carriage might be?

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:34 pm
by 2512silverfox
Its a 45' Howlden Brake third ex GNR - see HCD Vol 1 for drawings. OR it could possibly be the end of a triplet or quad built from 6 wheelers and old rigid eight wheelers - not really enough showing to be sure.

Re: Any thoughts on what this carriage might be?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:01 pm
by 2562
There's another photo here http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/l/lo ... ex64.shtml which I think is the same carriage (different era).

So it could be a twin possibly diagram 198/218 , 33' over the body length, although without a better photo of the side it really is hard to draw any conclusions.

Thanks for your help.