The LNER Encyclopedia

A few more of dad's photos.
I have a lot more, when I get time they will be added to flickr. Meanwhile I will try to post some here from time to time.

I hope you enjoy them.

David

Thanks for sharing these and the other batch of photos Dave. Late 40s/early 50s is an interesting period in many ways. I'm looking forward to enjoying more, both here and on flickr.

Lovely pics Dave. Keep them coming: this is the period which interests me the most. The plethora of livery and physical variations between supposedly identical machines, combined with the grime is really beautiful and evocative. Many thanks for sharing them with us.

Thanks for the PM replies David.

These will be very useful photos for reference of my modelling. Keep them coming!

Tom

The J39 at Sutton reminded me that this location was to be a major coal exporting port and one end of the Lancashire Derbyshire and east coast railway. The GCR and Immingham put paid to that idea never the less its an interesting LNER constituent that deserves further attention if members are in the companies area of operations. I have visited a few locations myself.

What excellent photos. They have made my day. A photo of a J39 on the Mablethorpe branch is wonderful, and the V2 at Nottingham has lots of interesting detail.

My coaching stock knowledge is not good, so does anyone know the origin of the coach immediately behind the V2?

strang steel wrote:What excellent photos. They have made my day. A photo of a J39 on the Mablethorpe branch is wonderful, and the V2 at Nottingham has lots of interesting detail.

My coaching stock knowledge is not good, so does anyone know the origin of the coach immediately behind the V2?

I think it's a Thompson Brake 3rd...I'm in my infancy of understanding coaches, but I'm enjoying the learning.

strang steel wrote:My coaching stock knowledge is not good, so does anyone know the origin of the coach immediately behind the V2?

My best guess is that this is a Diagram 127 gangwayed Third Brake of Great Western design, dating from 1938. Footboard and window layout are consistent with this.

John Palmer wrote:

strang steel wrote:My coaching stock knowledge is not good, so does anyone know the origin of the coach immediately behind the V2?

My best guess is that this is a Diagram 127 gangwayed Third Brake of Great Western design, dating from 1938. Footboard and window layout are consistent with this.

I was right about it being a Brake 3rd all though wrong company all together...as I say though coach learning in its infancy!

Yes, definitely a GW coach. A later design, I think. Hawkesworth, maybe?

giner wrote:Yes, definitely a GW coach. A later design, I think. Hawkesworth, maybe?

I believe all Hawksorth ones had a different shape roof end, more like the Gresley ones where the end of the roof slopes down.

I think it is older as other posters have suggested.

If only dad had taken as much interest in coaches as he did in locos!

David

52D wrote:The J39 at Sutton reminded me that this location was to be a major coal exporting port and one end of the Lancashire Derbyshire and east coast railway. The GCR and Immingham put paid to that idea never the less its an interesting LNER constituent that deserves further attention if members are in the companies area of operations. I have visited a few locations myself.

I'd completely forgotten that, very remiss of me since the Great Central (and hence the LD&ECR) is one of my favourite railways (after the Midland, if I can say that here!).

david

GW not my area, but it looks like a Collett designed coach to me. Something like this?

Collett Brake Third

The lack of visible ventilators, unlike the rest of the stock, intrigues.

S.A.C. Martin wrote:GW not my area, but it looks like a Collett designed coach to me. Something like this?

Collett Brake Third

The lack of visible ventilators, unlike the rest of the stock, intrigues.

My apologies, in my previous post I omitted the diagram prefix; I should have referred to diagram D.127.

I still think the leading vehicle is a representative of this diagram rather than the earlier Collett design numbered 5883, a diagram D.118 vehicle built in 1934. My reasons for sticking to my original D.127 identification are the multiple footboards (as against a single continuous footboard on the D.118 design) and the presence of two droplights midway along the side having a shallower depth than the main windows (cf the D.118 vehicle in which the main windows and the droplights are of the same depth).

The apparent absence of roof vents is a bit of a puzzle, but fig. 265 in Russell’s GW Coaches Appendix Vol. 1 shows a vehicle built to this diagram in which the vents are similarly invisible.

The identity of the second vehicle in the train is more elusive. I think this might be a GW side corridor Third to diagram C.77 built in 1938. I base this on the presence of 8 main windows which wouldn’t fit with a Stanier flush-sided design having only 7 main windows, but I'm far from sure. Any thoughts?