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Hi Guys

With all the talk about the Flying Scotsman and double tender models on other threads, I thought you might like the picture I picked up at the St. Albans show today.

Sorry to say there is no date or location on the back. Cleaned it up the best I could, but if anyone else wants to try and get a better image I can send them the scan.

Regards

Richard

mossie

i just noticed this at the perfect time

have you any others (including if the locomotive came out blue)

Wootang

No sorry that is the only picture I have, so could not tell the colour.

Regards

Richard

G'Day Gents

Is there a location of where Flying Scotsman is ?.........if not I would say, it's just approaching Finsbury Park station, and about to cross Seven Sisters Road bridge ( Down goods?) or is backing onto Finsbury Park Shed.

manna

manna wrote:G'Day Gents

Is there a location of where Flying Scotsman is ?.........if not I would say, it's just approaching Finsbury Park station, and about to cross Seven Sisters Road bridge ( Down goods?) or is backing onto Finsbury Park Shed.

manna

I can see what you mean there manna, yet somehow, something doesn't seem quite right to me : Like the houses in the background, that I think would be in Isledon Road, yet I thought there were more of them; the terrace was a good bit longer : In fact the background generally looks a bit bare.
Could it be further back in Fins.Pk. depot yard (not so near to Seven Sisters Road), I wonder.

G'Day Gents

Could be Stevie, but it looks like the Astoria cinema in the background !

manna

I thought that myself, manna, but it shows only a very small part of the Astoria, if it is that (looks like there's some scaffolding up as well).. And it's not enough, really, to go on. Other than that, I'm out of ideas.

Hi Guys

Had a look at the picture under a large magnifying glass and the building with the scaffolding looks be a water tank. If you look closely you can see the curves on the corners and the plate sections, also the housing in the background behind the tenders, seem to have white domed roofs. Or is that a trick of the light.

Regards

Richard

Steve, I think it is Finsbury Park but we are talking the station end with the Astoria (Rainbow) behind the loco. The row of houses you are talking about lie below and to the left of the tenders and are of a completely different style. There was originally another row of houses nearer to the road bridge and I think it is those that we are seeing.

The "water tower" to the left is, I strongly suspect, the vent tower for the tube actually being constructed. This sits quite a way back from the tracks.

Finally, on the very left where the picture fades out, is that a signalmens bike that I see a wheel of?!

Thanks Andy.
It's a difficult one alright (for me anyway).

If the mention of a signalman's bike means you're thinking somewhere very close to No.3 box, then I doubt it (for one thing, given that the camera seems to have been higher than a ground level standing height, I'm mentally picturing the Astoria as being tall enough to have been more evident behind the loco, or somewhere in-shot; unless it's out-of-shot to the right) : What would then be the space between the Down Fast and the other down lines, here looks too wide to me : South of the 7Sis road bridge metalwork there, space was pretty tight - there was some sort of large hut immediately south of the bridge followed by a short gap before reaching the box, and with a narrow walkway from Plat.6 leading off the bridge by a set of narrow steps close by the very elevated Down Slow No.1 setback disc, and along this side, to the box.
There was a more open, but narrowing space between these lines south of the box, yet not this wide, and I thought there were some minor items there (like concrete post-legged wooden battery cupboards), and although I know the old track layout there pretty well, and the angle of the shot doesn't show much of trackwork to be identifiable, I would have thought that, for there, the pointwork that would have been visible would have appeared a little more complex, whereas these tracks have, to me, something of a sidings look about them.
Yet there is something of the photo's overall atmosphere that does suggest somewhere in the Fins. Pk.- Hornsey area.

sorry im feeling rather stupid at the moment HOWEVER there is 2 small possibilities 1) hull dairy coates (track formation matches the period) 2) flying scotsmans private shed

4472 near Blackpool North Shed. Not sure of the date but Ido have it written in my recoeds. Will check. One of several I took that day.
ArthurK

thats a brilliant view of the tenders

Hi, just come across this thread. Here is a picture I took in mid 60's of Flying Scotsman taking water in Clarence Yard (Finsbury Park). Looks like Alan Ramage on the tender and driver John Hill on the ground. Took some other pictures of 4472, but this is the only one I've scanned.

Here's another taken on the same day, not a brilliant scan I'm afraid, but slide is dated April 69