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Peppercorn A1 Pacifics in the 50's & 60's Pt 1

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:17 pm
by neildimmer

Re: Peppercorn A1 Pacifics in the 50's & 60's Pt 1

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:16 pm
by StevieG
neildimmer wrote: " Hi All .... "

" .... 60118 Archibald Sturrock
........
unknown location
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 32669.html
........
....60122 Curlew unknown location
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 32673.html
.........
Neil "
I note all the 'Unknown location' photos, except the two above, now seem to have locations in their captions (on which I agree), so I presume these have been answered since you posted them.

'p64032669' : Just a hunch; from looking at the type of shunt disc signal and the point machine (and the little flat-roofed brick hut ?), I wonder;- - also at Doncaster?

Re: Peppercorn A1 Pacifics in the 50's & 60's Pt 1

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:17 am
by Flamingo
60115 on Pullman - approaching Hadley South tunnel ( Greenwood).

Re: Peppercorn A1 Pacifics in the 50's & 60's Pt 1

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:27 pm
by neildimmer
Hi All

Second part of my collection of Peppercorn A1 pacific loco photos from the late 1950's & early 1960's
60124 Kenilworth Darlington 19/7/65 (Bill Wright)
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 64182.html
60125 Scottish Union Retford 20/5/61 (Tony Gillett)
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 64182.html
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 90942.html
60125 Scottish Union Kings Cross 1961
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 32686.html
60125 Scottish Union (unknown location)
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 32660.html
60128 Bongrace Doncaster 1960
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 32681.html
60128 Bongrace Kings Cross?
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 32672.html
60129 Guy Mannering (unknown)
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 32679.html
60129 Guy Mannering & V2 60828 York mpd 19/7/65 (Bill Wright)
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 64183.html
60130 Kestrel Doncaster mpd 7/9/63 (Tony Gillett)
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 90929.html
60130 Kestrel snowy Kings Cross
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 32688.html
60133 Pommen Retford 20/5/61 (Tony Gillett)
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 90932.html
60133 Pommen Doncaster
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 32662.html
60133 Pommen (unknown)
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 32664.html
60136 Alcazar Doncaster 1962
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 32664.html
60136 Alcazar (unknown)
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 32670.html
60139 Sea Eagle
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 32685.html
60140 Balmoral Retford 20/5/61 (Tony Gillett)
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 90941.html

Neil

Re: Peppercorn A1 Pacifics in the 50's & 60's Pt 1

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:30 pm
by neildimmer
StevieG wrote:
neildimmer wrote: " Hi All .... "

" .... 60118 Archibald Sturrock
........
unknown location
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 32669.html
........
....60122 Curlew unknown location
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 32673.html
.........
Neil "
I note all the 'Unknown location' photos, except the two above, now seem to have locations in their captions (on which I agree), so I presume these have been answered since you posted them.

'p64032669' : Just a hunch; from looking at the type of shunt disc signal and the point machine (and the little flat-roofed brick hut ?), I wonder;- - also at Doncaster?

Thanks for remainder of locations, yes the others were identified quite early

Neil

Re: Peppercorn A1 Pacifics in the 50's & 60's Pt 1

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:31 pm
by neildimmer
Flamingo wrote:60115 on Pullman - approaching Hadley South tunnel ( Greenwood).

Cheers for that

Neil

Re: Peppercorn A1 Pacifics in the 50's & 60's Pt 1

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:34 am
by Flamingo
60125 photo 32660 - this looks like a location that came up in the A3 pictures, the general consensus was between Potters Bar and Brookmans Park.

60129 photo 32679 - New Southgate

60133 photo 32664 - Finsbury Park?

Re: Peppercorn A1 Pacifics in the 50's & 60's Pt 3

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:41 pm
by neildimmer

Re: Peppercorn A1 Pacifics in the 50's & 60's Pt 1

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:04 pm
by neildimmer
Flamingo wrote:60125 photo 32660 - this looks like a location that came up in the A3 pictures, the general consensus was between Potters Bar and Brookmans Park.

60129 photo 32679 - New Southgate

60133 photo 32664 - Finsbury Park?

Thanks

Neil

Re: Peppercorn A1 Pacifics in the 50's & 60's Pt 1

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:06 pm
by v3man
60142 Edward Fletcher 32663.html

The loco in photo 32663 appears to have a nameplate with a crest, if so it would not be Edward Fletcher.

I remember 60142 was a regular performer from Edinburgh on the Southbound Flying Scotsman during one early 1950's summer,usually in pristine condition although it wasn't a Haymarket engine.

Re: Peppercorn A1 Pacifics in the 50's & 60's Pt 1

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:40 am
by StevieG
neildimmer wrote: " Hi All
.... "
.... " First part of a large collection of Peppercorn A1 pacific photos form the late 1950's & early 1960's " .....
..... " 60122 Curlew unknown locations
http://www.steamlocomotives.photos.gb.n ... 32694.html .... "

"...Neil "
I know this is already identified as Finsbury Park (actually on one of the Fast lines), but in case of interest, from the AWS just peeping in at the bottom, Curlew must be on the Down Fast (Plat.5).

Re: Peppercorn A1 Pacifics in the 50's & 60's Pt 1

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:46 am
by StevieG
Flamingo wrote:60125 photo 32660 - this looks like a location that came up in the A3 pictures, the general consensus was between Potters Bar and Brookmans Park.

60129 photo 32679 - New Southgate

60133 photo 32664 - Finsbury Park?
I agree heartwholedly with all three.

32660 - not very far south of Hawkshead bridge, heading north, I reckon.
32679 - about 300 yards north of N.S. station on the Down Fast
32664 - Definitely FP (on the DF). The roof above the loco is that of No.3 signal box.

Re: Peppercorn A1 Pacifics in the 50's & 60's Pt 1

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:48 am
by giner
v3man wrote:60142 Edward Fletcher 32663.html

The loco in photo 32663 appears to have a nameplate with a crest, if so it would not be Edward Fletcher.

I remember 60142 was a regular performer from Edinburgh on the Southbound Flying Scotsman during one early 1950's summer,usually in pristine condition although it wasn't a Haymarket engine.
Yes. A number '4' is reasonably clear in the right position on the smokebox door plate, so being a crested nameplate and the only one in the 6014* segment, it can only be 60147 North Eastern.

Re: Peppercorn A1 Pacifics in the 50's & 60's Pt 1

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:22 am
by neildimmer
giner wrote:
v3man wrote:60142 Edward Fletcher 32663.html

The loco in photo 32663 appears to have a nameplate with a crest, if so it would not be Edward Fletcher.

I remember 60142 was a regular performer from Edinburgh on the Southbound Flying Scotsman during one early 1950's summer,usually in pristine condition although it wasn't a Haymarket engine.
Yes. A number '4' is reasonably clear in the right position on the smokebox door plate, so being a crested nameplate and the only one in the 6014* segment, it can only be 60147 North Eastern.


Many thanks, caption updated

Neil

Re: Peppercorn A1 Pacifics in the 50's & 60's Pt 1

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:22 am
by 52D
And before anyone else gets in, it (North Eastern) has to be a Gateshead loco because of the external condition.