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Historical North Eastern

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:52 pm
by Malcolm
Some really old ones.

Malcolm

Re: Historical North Eastern

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:45 pm
by third-rail
nice pictures again malcolm, but i think that the date given for the tyneside electric composite should be 1915 as it has in common with the 1920 replacement stock a combined destination sign with built in marker lights. also the car in the backgound looks like one of the original with no vents above the windows but seperate marker lights independent of the destination sign ,there was also a batch of stock built in 1909.
see this web site

http://www.northumbrian-railways.co.uk/ ... -electrics

4 of the pics here are mine


any more tyneside electrics pictures eg the controlled sets ,the parambulator van???

Re: Historical North Eastern

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:28 am
by Solario
Hi Malcolm,

As ever, some interesting pictures, the Shildon pic looks really old.

Any idea of the location of the lorry? I notice that it has an East Yorkshire (BT) number plate. Unless York used BT in those days.

Re: Historical North Eastern

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:55 am
by YNMR
I am sure that the NER registered the vast majority of its road vehicles in the East Riding at Beverley hence the East Riding number plate.

Graham

Re: Historical North Eastern

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:10 am
by 52D
Ginx's Babies as a class were named after a then current theatrical play or book can any one shed more light. Similarily in roughly the same time period the NER had a class of locomotives nicknamed Waterburys after a cheap (American?) watch.
Also the pic of 215 at Shildon if you look closely at the crane to the rear of the loco do you think it has a timber jib. It was a fairly common occurence for Derricks of this period to have a timber jib perhaps the expert that commented on the Elswick accident breakdown cranes can help here.

Re: Historical North Eastern

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:36 pm
by Malcolm
52D wrote:Ginx's Babies as a class were named after a then current theatrical play or book can any one shed more light. Similarily in roughly the same time period the NER had a class of locomotives nicknamed Waterburys after a cheap (American?) watch.
Also the pic of 215 at Shildon if you look closely at the crane to the rear of the loco do you think it has a timber jib. It was a fairly common occurence for Derricks of this period to have a timber jib perhaps the expert that commented on the Elswick accident breakdown cranes can help here.
Some more "Ginx's Babies", the 'Redheugh Banker', a "Gamecock", and.......Aerolite in a form many of you may never have seen.

Malcolm

Re: Historical North Eastern

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:41 pm
by Malcolm
And some rare shots of atlantics and compounds.

Malcolm

Re: Historical North Eastern

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:35 pm
by mick b
Excellent pictures. I wish someone would do a kit of Aerolite :!: :!:

Mick

Re: Historical North Eastern

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:37 am
by 52D
Whilst browsing the Manning & Wardle history I came across two engines built for the NER as incline engines they look fairly similar to Malcolms picture of an incline engine above but have an unequal wheel spacing with an 0-6-0 arrangement I wonder if Gateshead copied the major part of the design from the original M & W. (NER 518 & 519).

Re: Historical North Eastern

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:05 pm
by Malcolm
52D wrote:Whilst browsing the Manning & Wardle history I came across two engines built for the NER as incline engines they look fairly similar to Malcolms picture of an incline engine above but have an unequal wheel spacing with an 0-6-0 arrangement I wonder if Gateshead copied the major part of the design from the original M & W. (NER 518 & 519).
Got pictures of those engines. Will post later.

Malcolm

Re: Historical North Eastern

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:34 pm
by Malcolm
Made a mistake (a lot of those just recently). Only one picture of a Manning Wardle.
However, here it is along with another NER tank and a "Waterbury".

Sorry about the quality of the scans (you'll have to click on the photos) as the scanner doesn't seem to like some of my postcards.

Malcolm

Re: Historical North Eastern

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:46 pm
by B4411
From what I can see of it, the crane looks very typical of its time. The steam "accident crane" did not exist at all prior to the 1860s and at the time the photo was take was very much in its infancy, and most accident work would be undertaken with hand cranes.

The crane certainly has a wooden jib which appears to be non-luffing (again normal for the time), and the moveable ballast box (which runs on rollers on a rear extension of the rotating upper part) can be seen. It looks as though there are two speeds for hand cranking given the two different sized spur gears which are clearly visible. I would imagine that the lifting capacity would be between 5 and 12 tons, most probably at the lower end of that range.

Re: Historical North Eastern

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:22 am
by Ferrybridge Flyer
Thanks for all the photos Malcolm,a proper ongoing history lesson for us appreciative young 'uns!! :)

Re: Historical North Eastern

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:19 pm
by 52D
Note S&DR Bouch long boiler 0-6-0 No214 has a wheel arrangement with spacing of the wheels being irregular does the loco above No215 have the same type of wheel arrangement.
Indeed is it of the same class.

Re: Historical North Eastern

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:15 pm
by Malcolm
Here is my Swansong so to speak. A trip up North for family reasons turned up the following pictures. Unfortunately, only the Tyneside electric and the Reid-Macleod have dates. The Nidd Valley Light Railway one is very interesting as it shows the Nidd Valley Light Railway passenger services between Pateley Bridge and Lofthouse. Ex GWR steam railcar 'Hill' approaches Wath.

Malcolm