Scrapbook Pic - Year?

[Iron Duke]

Thanks for that, confirmation at last !

ID

[Iron Duke]

A few pics, 1346 & 274 any offers on the service or possible year?
Also 3007 any ideas location or year?
Unfortunately no photographer credit, but thanks for recording these images.

[StevieG]

I don't see a lot to go on for 3007, ID, but (& it might be biased by personal knowledge of one's local area of about 44 years ago), I feel a vague similarity or two to what might have been the then look of the south end of Hadley North Tunnel.

Noting the white-backed sign above the portal, one possible clue is that HN Tnl. had a footpath above the tunnel running from a northerly direction, which then took (still takes?) a westerly turn above the portal to skirt round the cutting top before descending while paralleling the line until being at ground level behind Hadley Wood station's down platform. However that westward turn might was rather sharp, and may have been a deviation necessitated by creation of the late 1950s additional bore of this and the nearby tunnels for the Greenwood-Potters Bar quadrupling. If so this whole theory could be a red herring.

Did 3007 ever work in the London and home counties' area of 'the GN'?

[Andy W]

Steve, apart from a couple of weeks in 1933, it was a Hitchin engine until 1941 (according to Yeadon 37A) so you may well be on the money here.

[StevieG]

Steve, apart from a couple of weeks in 1933, it was a Hitchin engine until 1941 (according to Yeadon 37A) so you may well be on the money here.

Hmmm; interesting.
Thanks Andy.

[giner]

All I can see from the photo is that the brickwork on the parapet wall looks clean and new against the rest of the portal. Does that jog anyone's ideas?

[Iron Duke]

Last year I read a novel featuring a central character called Robert Colbeck "The Railway Detective"
He's not a patch on you lot !

[Mickey]

Last year I read a novel featuring a central character called Robert Colbeck "The Railway Detective"
He's not a patch on you lot !

Pound for pound we've probably got the worlds finest railway minds and knowledgeable people with experience on this forum. I have read some of the posts on other railway forums and quite frankly most of them come across as a bunch of amateur's that don't know much about railways at all???.

[jwealleans]

The first of those photos rang a bell with me - there's a very similar view in Top Shed, captioned as being a Scarborough and Ripon working. It's a different set of stock, so it's not another view on the same occasion, but it's leaving from the same platform so could well be the same service. It's most likely early LNER period (apart from the obvious fact of the C1 having the number on the tender) as the caption comments that this was a fairly regular combination of locos until sufficient Pacifics became available.

[Iron Duke]

On the first pic 1346 has a "fitting" of some sort on the side of the smokebox.
A similar device seems to be evident in the second pic of 3007.
Does anyone know what this was for?

[jwealleans]

Oil reservoir, I think for lubricating the valves.

[JASd17]

1346 and 274.

Both locos are still carrying GNR numbers. Which means the photograph was taken before February 1925.
I think 1346 may still be in GNR livery too.

It looks like an early afternoon shot, so it could be the 1-40pm to Leeds, and other destinations, some served by the Brake Composites at the front of the train.

John

[JASd17]

3007.

There is a picture of an N2 on a down Hatfield service by F.R. Hebron in LNER Album Volume 3 taken at the same location. Stated to be leaving Hadley Wood South tunnel. Other pictures at the same location in Volume 1 too.

John

[JASd17]

Re-1346 and 274.

Exactly the same combination can be seen on page 31 of Locomotives Illustrated 126. The train looks similar, and on this occasion it is the 5.45pm down. Dated 1924.

John

[2512silverfox]

I agree with John about the double header. Photo was by H Gordon Tidey who had a pass at this time.