North Eastern Railway Corridor Stock

[Dixie]

I am seeking photographs and details of the working of the handsome North Eastern Railway corridor stock built from 1908 onwards. This stock was built to work the Hull-Liverpool and Newcastle-Liverpool services and later the Leeds-Glasgow service. Several photos of the stock appeared in the pre 1918 Railway Magazines, working the Kings Cross-Scarborough(summer only) service and of the Newcastle-Liverpool service, but none of the services from Leeds or Hull. Can anyone help me please?

[JASd17]

C.S.Carter's article in the British Railway Journal No. 34 is still the best on these carriages.

There were, from memory, only 64 vehicles. So, depending on the era you are enquiring about, there were no NER Leeds-Hull trains formed by this stock. The NERA published May 1932 CWN shows the 2.00pm Hull to Liverpool service partly formed of this stock.

It is still a subject that needs more research.

John

[Dixie]

Many thanks for the references. I have a copy of Carter's article and it is very useful. I also have a set of the NERA journals - could you please give me further details of so that I can look up the reference you give? As a matter of interest I have a couple of commercial colour postcards shewing the corridor stock. One taken on Wiske Moor troughs with a NE Class V/09 in charge and the other on Walkden troughs with an L&Y 'Dreadnought' at the head. These cards would have been based on black and white photos. I have the NE one but has anyone got a b&w of the latter?

The services to Liverpool from both Hull and Newcastle would, I suspect, have been worked jointly with the LNW and L&Y respectively so that the stock of these companies would be seen in NE territory. Any comments?

[1H was 2E]

Although a bit tangential, an old LNWR marshalling circular in my possession shows the 11am down from Northampton (presumably to Nottingham via the Joint Line - that was the about the only destination of down trains starting at Npton) as conveying a through coach to Scarborough ThFSO 14/7 to 10/9, returning FSMO. It is shown as Break Composite 1st & 3rd with centre break (yes, I know you don't spell it like that now!) and "Must be fitted with Westinghouse break". In other cases of through coaches, the owning railway is shown, but in this case, it isn't, so presumably it was an LNWR coach. Odd that it wasn't NER alternate days, though. Just slightly difficult to understand the demand for this service.
Other strange through coaches include a GW break composite Cardiff to Newcastle on the 7.40 pm down from Bristol (but which left Cardiff at 7.42 pm so presumably attached at Shrewsbury); this train also conveyed a Swansea-York LNWR tricomposite and break, presumably from Salop.
Nothing to do with the NER, but a passenger on the through Euston to Merthyr coach certainly saw a lot of the LNWR. Its first transfer was at Stafford....
There's certainly the excuse in modelling for a few 'foreign' coaches. On the LMS between the wars, there were a few trains carrying a whole series of amazing through coaches, with for instance Northampton being a focus for coaches from the west/ south to the east/ northeast.
Incidentally, it seems the LNWR only connected gangways on through coaches when a restaurant car was available, because management, it seems, resented passengers 'pointlessly' walking up and down the train. Maybe other railways had the same policy.