I'm just starting a J21 project (which I've mentioned elsewhere.) I think the non-superheated short-smokebox version looks nicer. The same photograph appears in RCTS Vol 5 Fig 189 captioned 'Class J21 No.513 on an up local near Durham 1937', and in Yeadon 47A on page 33 captioned 'Reedsmouth 1930'
According to the Yeadon details No 513 was a Heaton engine until 1943. It had two General overhauls between 1930 and 1937, but on both occasions was fitted with a Dia 67 boiler, so there was presumably no reason why it shouldn't have been still carrying Ramsbottom safetly valves and brass bonnet (?).
Is there any other evidence that could date (and locate) the photographs?
Captions on source photographs
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Re: Captions on source photographs
Ah, the dreaded caption conundrum.
As Reedsmouth is my pet project, I can at least offer some thoughts.
There was only one small area at Reedsmouth where there were adjacent straight tracks - on the Reedsmouth side of the viaduct.
However, at this point the left hand track is the long carriage siding, and appears in far too good condition for a siding - other factors - ballast should be ash, chairs should be 4-bolt, rails should be either 26' or 30'. If this was Reedsmouth, the original station platform would be visible on the extreme left of the photo.
The Border Counties was single track, and just visible is a lower quadrant signal in the off position, which would seem to indicate line clear for a train on the LH track.
Heaton locos did not have any workings over the BCR, these were covered by Blaydon and Hawick sheds.
On this occasion, I think the Green Book is correct, but I can't place where exactly around Durham the photo has been taken - I suspect north of Newton Hall junction.
Which J21 kit are you going to use? I originally bought an Alexander kit, but I've ended up using a 52F models chassis and Dave Bradwell tender, subsequent J21s have come from London Road Models.
As Reedsmouth is my pet project, I can at least offer some thoughts.
There was only one small area at Reedsmouth where there were adjacent straight tracks - on the Reedsmouth side of the viaduct.
However, at this point the left hand track is the long carriage siding, and appears in far too good condition for a siding - other factors - ballast should be ash, chairs should be 4-bolt, rails should be either 26' or 30'. If this was Reedsmouth, the original station platform would be visible on the extreme left of the photo.
The Border Counties was single track, and just visible is a lower quadrant signal in the off position, which would seem to indicate line clear for a train on the LH track.
Heaton locos did not have any workings over the BCR, these were covered by Blaydon and Hawick sheds.
On this occasion, I think the Green Book is correct, but I can't place where exactly around Durham the photo has been taken - I suspect north of Newton Hall junction.
Which J21 kit are you going to use? I originally bought an Alexander kit, but I've ended up using a 52F models chassis and Dave Bradwell tender, subsequent J21s have come from London Road Models.
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drmditch
Re: Captions on source photographs
Thank you UpDistant for your brilliant analysis!
I do like this forum, where there are people who really know what they are talking about!
I suspected it would be in the Newton Hall area somewhere, but don't know enough to be sure.
Would a Heaton loco have been on a stopping passenger to Durham in 1937?
I'm starting an Alexander kit, although I've had it in stock for years so it may be quite an old one. My best running loco is an Alexander Q6, with the Alexander chassis. I tend to re-work the Alexander tender chassis though, as I have several of them. I'll put posts on my 'Make do and Mend' thread in the modellers forum when there has been some progress.
I'm tempted by a non-superheated, slide-valve, Westinghouse and Vacuum example though, from either about 1937 or 1947.
I do like this forum, where there are people who really know what they are talking about!
I suspected it would be in the Newton Hall area somewhere, but don't know enough to be sure.
Would a Heaton loco have been on a stopping passenger to Durham in 1937?
I'm starting an Alexander kit, although I've had it in stock for years so it may be quite an old one. My best running loco is an Alexander Q6, with the Alexander chassis. I tend to re-work the Alexander tender chassis though, as I have several of them. I'll put posts on my 'Make do and Mend' thread in the modellers forum when there has been some progress.
I'm tempted by a non-superheated, slide-valve, Westinghouse and Vacuum example though, from either about 1937 or 1947.