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NER 4-4-0 query

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:55 pm
by Stamfordian
I'd be interested to know anything about the loco and carriage in the picture at http://picturestocktonarchive.wordpress ... uct-c1900/
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The notes below the picture are not conclusive (at the time of writing). To my eye, the loco. does not exactly resemble any of the pictures of NER 4-4-0s in the 'Locomotives' section here.

Re: NER Atlantic query

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:03 pm
by jwealleans
D17 (NER M) or D22 (NER D/F/F1), I'd have said. Certainly pre- or shortly after 1923. I'd agree about the coach possibly being a saloon of some sort as well.

Re: NER Atlantic query

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:26 pm
by Rlangham
Colouring of the splashers appears to be a different shade

Re: NER Atlantic query

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:57 pm
by Blink Bonny
Ay up!

This engine has no cast numberplate. Didn't NER engines carry these? Also there is damage to the front end like a shunting mishap.

Re: NER 4-4-0 query

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 7:35 pm
by Rlangham
Yes, should have a large cabside plate. Should also have a visible curve on the cab side where the splasher comes down to footplate level. Wonder if the photo has been touched up?

Also, i've slightly modified the title from 'Atlantic' to '4-4-0'

Re: NER 4-4-0 query

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:59 am
by James Brodie
0 gauge NER class M waiting painting.
NER class M.png
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Re: NER 4-4-0 query

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:40 am
by jwealleans
Possible it's on test from Works and not completely painted/decorated? It looks as if there's a section of valance missing above the leading driver as well.

Re: NER 4-4-0 query

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:19 am
by ten ten
There are indications of "touching in" to enhance the sky to a white rather than grey,possibly on the original negative. The original grey in the sky can be seen above the tender rear,this retouching would account for the strange appearance around the front buffers and smokebox.Such touching in occurred on many photo post cards of that era.The splasher area mismatch is odd - I wonder if the loco had a side swipe,and was still in undercoat after repair.

Re: NER 4-4-0 query

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:33 am
by Bill Bedford
The number plate is there, just lost in the noise of the bad print. The coach is an ordinary clerestory brake.

Re: NER 4-4-0 query

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:32 pm
by JASd17
I agree with Bill that the coach is an ordinary NER clerestory van/brake, with four windows in the end.

John