What is the wire?

This forum is for the discussion of the locomotives, motive power, and rolling stock of the LNER and its constituent companies.

Moderators: 52D, Tom F, Rlangham, Atlantic 3279, Blink Bonny, Saint Johnstoun, richard

Post Reply
Pyewipe Junction
GCR D11 4-4-0 'Improved Director'
Posts: 464
Joined: Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:53 am
Location: Canberra, Australia

What is the wire?

Post by Pyewipe Junction »

Can anyone tell me the purpose of the wire (or cable) that extends from the cab to just in front of the cylinders on the left-hand side of a lot of Robinson locomotives?

You can see it quite clearly on the illustration of the B3 in the 'locomotives' section of the forum. I've noticed in most of the photos I've seen that it tended to sag, detracting from the appearance of what were otherwise handsome engines.
jwealleans
LNER A4 4-6-2 'Streak'
Posts: 4303
Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:46 am

Re: What is the wire?

Post by jwealleans »

Aren't those the pipe runs from the sight feed lubricators?
User avatar
Atlantic 3279
LNER A4 4-6-2 'Streak'
Posts: 6660
Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:51 am
Location: 2850, 245

Re: What is the wire?

Post by Atlantic 3279 »

I thought so. I gather that lower, "stiffly horizontal" pipes with branches descending vertically denote replacement fountain lubricators on O4s for instance.
Most subjects, models and techniques covered in this thread are now listed in various categories on page1

Dec. 2018: Almost all images that disappeared from my own thread following loss of free remote hosting are now restored.
Pyewipe Junction
GCR D11 4-4-0 'Improved Director'
Posts: 464
Joined: Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:53 am
Location: Canberra, Australia

Re: What is the wire?

Post by Pyewipe Junction »

Thanks for that. It's a pity they couldn't come up with a neater arrangement.
User avatar
61070
GCR O4 2-8-0 'ROD'
Posts: 576
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:22 pm

Re: What is the wire?

Post by 61070 »

I expect the reason for the arrangement is to provide a steady 'fall' in the rather lengthy small-bore pipe runs, so as to help the (quite viscous) steam oil on its way. In the early 1900s engineers recognised that reliable, continuous lubrication of pistons and valves was a vital pre-requisite for the use of superheated steam. On stationary and marine engines, where superheating was applied before locomotives, valve and cylinder lubricators were situated quite close to the steam inlet to the cylinders, and pipe runs were short, because the engineers could walk around the machinery to observe lubrication. Also, the engine houses (or engine rooms on steam ships) were generally warm/hot, aiding the flow of the oil. On locomotives pipe runs had to be much longer if the 'sight-feed' principle was to be applied, and they were exposed to the chill winds of winter. Hence the oil was provided with all the encouragement it could be given to get to where it was needed. There was probably a reluctance to 'hide' the pipe runs beneath the boiler cladding because pipe breakages would not be seen then. An example of function taking precedence over over aesthetics.
Post Reply