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60113 as a Mikado
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:54 am
by 60800
Re: 60113 as a Mikado
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:25 pm
by Atlantic 3279
Novel!
Safety note for others - don't look while driking tea or coffee.
Re: 60113 as a Mikado
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:54 pm
by marksouthcoast
Perhaps its time to create a new section on the forums sutch as never wazzers and alterinive reality or counterfatial history?.
Re: 60113 as a Mikado
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:13 pm
by S.A.C. Martin
I rather like that...
Re: 60113 as a Mikado
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:26 pm
by 60800
I prefer it to what Thompson did with her
Re: 60113 as a Mikado
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:17 pm
by Blink Bonny
Ay up!
That looks rather handsome TBH. Anyone fancy this one?
Re: 60113 as a Mikado
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:54 pm
by Atlantic 3279
Fancy it? Only if it dresses in black rubber.....
You might have done the decent thing Blackout and posted the link to this fine Gresley specimen rather than the Thompson carbucle:
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index. ... ley-4-8-2/
That should appeal to the man of Perth unless he has already seen it.
The manipulator of those images is clearly rather good at his craft and tooled-up with decent software for the job. The whole album of alternative design history items is worth a look.
I wonder, could he, or somebody with similar skill, have a go at a rendition of the originally proposed West Highland mixed-traffic lightweight 3-cylinder 2-8-0, the East Midlands 2-8-2 P10 coal tank, or even a Gresley 5' 8" wheeled counterpart of the P1s that might have found much wider application and maybe eliminated the later need for the ill-fated P2s and the V2s?
Re: 60113 as a Mikado
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:11 pm
by marksouthcoast
How about a new thread on planned but unbuilt engines.
Re: 60113 as a Mikado
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:36 pm
by 60800
I saw that but didn't like it. The de-streamlined P2's looked nice though
Re: 60113 as a Mikado
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:53 pm
by Saint Johnstoun
The manipulated pictures are very good, but one feature has been missed in these elongated renderings - the boiler design used on the 4-8-2 and 4-8-4 proposals featured a very long smokebox. If our friend was able to rework his 4-8-2 drawing showing that feature with the superheater header covers visible and a vee fronted cab then it would be spot on.
Although not LNER I am very tempted by his LMS Castle! That would certainly upset a few friends of mine who are worshippers of Gods Wonderful Railway! An old Airfix Castle allied to a 4F tender would work!
Re: 60113 as a Mikado
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:36 pm
by marksouthcoast
If the gwr had let the lms use the castle drawings the red castle might have happened instead of the royal scots.
Re: 60113 as a Mikado
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:17 am
by kudu
A fascinating archive.
Prompts me to recollect some other LNER rarities, such as the short-lived Raven 4-10-2 or the interesting results after Gresley's visit to Boston Lodge. I seem to recall an impressive 4-6-4-6-4, but that would challenge the most skillful photographer.
Kudu
Re: 60113 as a Mikado
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:12 am
by manna
G'Day Gents
Was there ever a 'Mallett' proposed for the LNER, would be fun with our loading gauge
manna
Re: 60113 as a Mikado
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:09 pm
by Atlantic 3279
None to my knowledge, but Hughes' team seem to have been looking at a proposal for the early LMS, before the dead-hand of Derby became all powerful and decreed that "Thou shallt build none larger than medium 2-6-0s and 4-4-0s, even unto the company's utter inability to run a proper service" and Mike Edge has a working 4mm model of that Mallet, colloquially known as The Hammer. The early LMS did of course build the Garratts too, complete with vital components such as bearings from the Derby stock-sizes range, suited only too small engines....
I wonder how successfully Hughes and his men would have tackled the difficult UK problem of firebox and ashpan over the coupled wheels, twenty odd years before Riddles had to have his first go? The model certainly suggests a wide firebox over the rear coupled wheel group.
Re: 60113 as a Mikado
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:47 am
by LNER Fan 60008
Interesting take on another 2-8-2. Those long Thompson fronts help the aesthetics on this one.
My favorites from his batch of "photos" are the unmodified Great Northern in BR Blue and the Ivatt 4-6-2.