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North Eastern Railway Aeroplane Van

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:18 pm
by Rlangham
This is a new vehicle on me, does anyone have more information on it? From this site;

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/gansg/4-rsto ... stock4.htm

"During the First World War the railways moved numbers of new aeroplanes in kit form. The fuselage would be shipped separately from the wings and usually without the engine. The railways built and converted a number of vehicles for this work including flat wagons on redundant four or six wheeled coach chassis and CCT type vans. The vans were often marked Aeroplane Van although they could also be used as CCT's. My aeroplane van model was made for a 1920's light railway, it is based on an NER design but I needed it in a hurry so I simply modified a Hornby Minitrix long wheelbase van, this has the correct roof profile but is rather too long. A more accurate model can be made using a cut-down Peco pallet van with the ends sanded flat and detailed with strip and new sides from planked card."

There is also an image of the van too. I would be very interested in seeing any prototype drawings/photographs of this NER or any other company's type

Re: North Eastern Railway Aeroplane Van

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:30 pm
by Bill Bedford
I don't think the NER had them. I have seen drawings / photos of examples from thew NSR and GCR. None were new builds, but existing six wheeled full brakes fitted with end doors. AIUI they were needed because during WW1 there were a number of aircraft manufacturers which had rail connections but were some distance from the wide open spaces needed for flying machines. Crossley's in Manchester is the one that springs to mind, there may have been others.

Re: North Eastern Railway Aeroplane Van

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:49 am
by Hatfield Shed
Volume 1 of the LNER wagons survey by Peter Tatlow has a picture of one of four GER flats, converted from redundant bogie carriages for the movement of aeroplane parts in 1916 (p214). According to the text three went into S&T use post-war, one was allocated as an open truck for theatrical traffic in carriage stock.

Re: North Eastern Railway Aeroplane Van

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:38 pm
by mick b
My D&S version. These were converted to end doors in 1918
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Re: North Eastern Railway Aeroplane Van

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:57 pm
by Dixie
So far as I am aware the NER had no specific vans for the carriage of aeroplanes. That is not to say that some vehicles may have been adapted but, if so, no specific diagram was allocated.

However, the NER did convert a number of 12 ton plate wagons into aeroplane crate wagons in February 1915 and allocated the diagram E5. The vehicles had screw couplings and were dual piped for braking. Sample numbers were G407 and G417, I hope this helps.

Re: North Eastern Railway Aeroplane Van

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:25 am
by jwealleans
The model referenced in the OP's link is a stretched Dia 25 CCT. Mick built one as an Elephant Van way back in his thread.