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I am looking for people to send me spotting logs from anytime prior to 1997 - preferably the age of steam, but any will be great. I will put them on my website with an acknowledgment and then we can build up a picture of what was seen where and when. Take a look at these examples to see what I mean: http://brdatabase.info/timelines.php?page=workings

To qualify, the log needs three simple ingredients: a location, a date and loco number(s). Please either send them to me via this forum or on the website submission page: http://brdatabase.info/contact.php

Thanks to anyone who can help!

Ian

Helloooooo...

<tumbleweed rolls across the screen>

Can anyone help with this?! Photocopies, spreadsheets, text files, word documents: any lists of locos seen on visits prior to 1997 would be most welcome.

Hi Chamossaire,
I posted some logs on the thread below - take a look. If these are of interest then I can provide a few more.
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5107

Chamossaire wrote:I am looking for people to send me spotting logs from anytime prior to 1997 - preferably the age of steam, but any will be great. I will put them on my website with an acknowledgment and then we can build up a picture of what was seen where and when. Take a look at these examples to see what I mean: http://brdatabase.info/timelines.php?page=workings

To qualify, the log needs three simple ingredients: a location, a date and loco number(s). Please either send them to me via this forum or on the website submission page: http://brdatabase.info/contact.php

Thanks to anyone who can help!

Ian

Hi Ian,

I have sent a message via the web page contact form but I got some form of error message in return and I am not sure that you have received it.

I have a list of steam locos at Stratford shed and works for 4/10/1959. A few of the numbers may no longer be legible, as it's in pencil, but the classes are certainly identifiable. It separates the locos at the Old Works, but otherwise I'm afraid the shed and works aren't distinguished. (The two were mixed together anyway - the most complex of all the works sites, imo, with running lines everywhere.)

Kudu

kudu wrote:I have a list of steam locos at Stratford shed and works for 4/10/1959. A few of the numbers may no longer be legible, as it's in pencil, but the classes are certainly identifiable. It separates the locos at the Old Works, but otherwise I'm afraid the shed and works aren't distinguished. (The two were mixed together anyway - the most complex of all the works sites, imo, with running lines everywhere.)

Kudu

Hi Kudu,

sounds good to me - can you get them scanned ? I'll PM you with an email address if you can.

I think it would be best if I typed out the list. I could post it here or send you a Word file. The latter would be easier for you to handle, I guess.

Let me know your preference.

Kudu

kudu wrote:I think it would be best if I typed out the list. I could post it here or send you a Word file. The latter would be easier for you to handle, I guess.

Let me know your preference.

Kudu

Hi Kudu, sorry, wasn't being rude (not deliberately) - missed your reply. Posting here is fine - I'll cut and paste.

Cheers!

Now I'm ex-Works (see separate thread) I can start posting again, so here's the Stratford list as promised. Only one number is not fully decipherable. The allocations given were listed at the time. One or two might be out of date ie just before a reallocation I didn't know about. 176 locos in all. For some reason Departmentals aren't listed - I don't know why.

Kudu


STRATFORD WORKS LIST
Visited Sunday 4 Oct 1959

A - Class totals (Old Works + New Works/MPD etc)
43XXX 8 (2 + 6)
47260 3
B1 14 (4 + 10)
B12 2
B2 2
B17 1
K3 2
K5 1
K1 3
D16 5
O1 2
J19 8 (1 + 7)
J20 6
J15 8
J39 25
J17 5
L1 12
J67/69 17
J68 8
N7 35 (6 + 29)
76XXX 2
WD 7
Total 176 (13 + 163)

B – Old Works
1 43083 Boston
2 43107 Boston
3 61009 Parkeston
4 61045 Norwich
5 61311 Colchester
6 61373 Colchester
7 64669 March
8 69646 S (=Stratford)
9 69653 S
10 69698 Hatfield
11 69714 S
12 69725 S
13 69733 Colchester

C – New Works, MPD, main works area etc
1 43084 New England
2 43089 King’s Lynn
3 43144 S (=Stratford)
4 43149 S
5 43151 S
6 43153 Colchester
7 47282 S
8 47306 S
9 47311 S
10 61006 Parkeston
11 61052 Ipswich
12 61089 S
13 61119 S
14 61135 Parkeston
15 61149 Parkeston
16 61317 Norwich
17 61329 S
18 61362 Parkeston
19 61384 Parkeston
20 61533 Cambridge
21 61577 Cambridge
22 61614 S (withdrawn?)
23 61616 Cambridge
24 61658 Colchester
25 61863 S
26 61948 March
27 61949 Norwich
28 62013 S
29 62017 March
30 62036 S
31 62517 March
32 62540 Norwich
33 62588 withdrawn
34 62589 Cambridge or March withdrawn
35 62606 King’s Lynn
36 63619 March
37 63646 March
38 64644 Norwich
39 64652 Parkeston
40 64653 S
41 64657 S
42 64660 Colchester
43 64661 Cambridge
44 64664 Colchester
45 64676 S
46 64680 S
47 64681 S
48 64682 S
49 64685 Bishops Stortford
50 64686 S
51 64702 Darnall
52 64708 S
53 64724 Ipswich
54 64735 Colwick
55 64752 Ipswich withdrawn
56 64755 Lincoln or Boston
57 64762 Colwick withdrawn
58 64765 S
59 64766 S
60 64768 S withdrawn
61 64775 S
62 64776 Parkeston
63 64781 S
64 64783 S
65 64784 S
66 64785 Norwich withdrawn
67 64793 Ipswich
68 64797 Lowestoft
69 64803 Cambridge
70 64805 S
71 64832 Colwick
72 64876 Doncaster
73 64881 Lincoln
74 64905 Ipswich
75 64973 S
76 65361 S
77 65440 S
78 65451 Cambridge
79 65452 S
80 65455 S
81 65464 S
82 65468 Colchester
83 65475 Cambridge
84 65507 Colchester
85 65526 King’s Lynn
86 65536 Bishops Stortford
87 65546 S
88 65563 S
89 67708 S
90 67713 Cambridge
91 67715 S
92 67716 S
93 67722 Cambridge
94 67725 s
95 67727 S
96 67730 S
97 67731 S
98 67732 S
99 67735 S
100 67737 S
101 68500 S
102 68510 Lincoln
103 68513 S
104 68538 S
105 68571 S
106 68573 Colchester
107 68575 S
108 68578 S
109 68579 Colchester
110 68581 Lincoln
111 68587 Doncaster
112 68596 S
113 68600 S
114 68601 Colwick
115 68613 S
116 68619 S
117 68633 S
118 68646 S
119 68647 S
120 68649 S
121 68650 S
122 68652 S
123 68655 S
124 68663 S
125 68665 S
126 69603 S
127 69614 S
128 69615 S
129 69621 Lowestoft
130 69638 Hatfield withdrawn
131 69642 S
132 69643 S
133 69649 Hatfield
134 69651 S
135 69655 S
136 69674 S
137 69675 Parkeston
138 69679 S
139 69683 Hertford East
140 69685 Hertford East
141 69690 S
142 69699 S
143 69701 S
144 69707 Norwich
145 69708 S
146 69711 S
147 69712 S
148 69713 Bishops Stortford
149 69718 S
150 69719 S
151 69720 S
152 69722 S
153 69728 S
154 69729 S
155 76032 S
156 76033 S
157 90028 S
158 90062 S
159 90129 S
160 90208? March
161 90298 S
162 90408 S
163 90551 S
End

If anyone is interested I have logs from early 1960...mainly Scotland, including works and scraplines/yards and Summer holiday trips to Blackpool/Preston/Man Vic, Scarborough/Bridlington/York from the early 60s.

I spotted in Perth from mid 1960 for 4 or 5 years but never kept logs except cops.

Jim

While looking through my Lincolnshire spotting notes for 1968 over the weekend (45 years seems a very long time away, now), I came across an oddity, and don't know if anyone has any connection with Lincoln depot in those days, but it would be interesting if they do.

The Derby/Rolls Royce 2-car dmu nos E50000 and E56000 are listed as withdrawn Oct 1967 in the Railway Observer and not surprisingly on Wikipedia, and that particular unit disappeared from the following years' ABC. I have no reason to suspect that was not the case.

However, I have them down as passing our back garden, between Sleaford and Boston, three times over the Whitsun holidays:- on 29th and 30th May, and again on 4th June 1968, seven months after withdrawal.

One sighting could be put down to bad eyesight, but three separate days seems a little too many, and my eyesight was excellent in those days. Also. I could tell that unit from the others, not just with the numbers but because there were no gear changes as it accelerated away from the station stop.

I wonder if Lincoln was a bit short of dmus during that holiday period, and pressed everything into service - withdrawn or not, because it was only the non-standard engine and transmission that sealed its fate originally. I don't think it was unserviceable.

Anyway, if someone has any corroborating evidence I would be very pleased to see it.

This thread has been quiet for 6 years, and I thought I would liven it up with these notes from a spotter's notebook:-

Hull to Liverpool May 19th 1951

Hessle

63816

Goole

41253 52331 52448 63947 65698

Thorne

61476 63659 63793 63949 63959 64183 64328 64349

Doncaster

60118 60539 60924 63641 63955 64255 67756 68867 68886 90290 90582

Mexborough

63812 64283 64832 68979 69264 90311

Rotherham

63682 63783 63839 64314 64348 69228 69236

Sheffield

44912 61151 61160 61223 63771 64387 64412 64423 64441 64452 68928 68990 69225 69235 90013

Woodhead route to Manchester

42107 61156 63575 63582 63625 63750 63763 63859 63862 63889 63900 64326 64426 64718 67434 69278 69320 90056

Manchester area

40430 42064 42788 42962 45346 45618 63891 63747 64322 64376 64434 64723 65142 65161 65163 67400 67424 67438 69326 69361

Liverpool area

40180 40937 41066 42949 44577 65149 69258

Lime Street

42426 42583 44935 45321 45741 46135 47411



NE Lincs July 16th 1951

New Holland

61325 64314

Immingham

43059 61082 61142 61190 61195 61202 61204 61231 61318 61365 61366 61373 61406 6140761730 61825 61827 61836 61905 61963 61972 63624 63647 63649 63651 63657 63660 63671 63692 63698 63735 63738 63819 63832 63836 63841 63842 63878 63902 63906 63979 64131 64284 64305 64325 64328 64355 64372 64411 64439 64446 64909 64962 67305 67309 67364 68013 68018 68020 68022 68026 68028 68030 68034 68068 68069 68070 68073 68074 68075 68076 68077 68078 68080 68171 68204 68205 68206 68207 68208 68209 68210 69322 69808 69815 90025 90119 90269 90466
90700

CLEETHORPES

45206 61031 61051 61056 61145 61153 61155 61167 61213 61250 61295 61310 61314 61317 61325 61405 61408 61417 61728 61852 61896 68009





June 8th 1952

Scunthorpe


63572 63576 63606 63617 63626 63655 63682 63696 63718 63731 63741 63793 63806 63823 63883 63906 63908 63917 63920 63934 63937 63944 63948 63960 64339 64395 64407 64429 64732 64806 64839 64840 68960 68962 68968 68971 68973 68974 69926 69930 69932 69934 69935 69936 69937 90013 90059 90133 90425 90456 90490 90714






East Anglia visits

18th March 1956



Parkeston Quay

11111 11113 61000 61005 61006 61135 61149 61232 61264 61613 64773 64777 64787 64873 64874 64953 64957 64973 65434 65452 65453 68500 68554 68643 69502 69550 69551 69561 70000


Ipswich

11136 11137 11138 11501 11502 61004 61052 61055 64752 61236 61253 61254 61533 61561 61564 61569 61571 61609 61625 61629 61631 61643 61647 61649 61663 61669 61801 61873 61921 61982 64647 64684 64726 64770 64793 64826 64829 64841 64882 64894 64905 65361 65404 65459 65467 65472 65512 65513 65553 65560 65578 67230 67702 67708 67709 67716 67775 68518 68521 68593 70030 E79050 E79269 E79055 E79271


Lowestoft

61926 61949 61959 61973 62584 62787 62788 62789 62797 65389 65433 65460 65462 65478 65507 67195 67214 67224 67231 67704 67714 67770 68565 68664 69824 69826 69829 70039



Yarmouth South Town

61058 61312 61622 61656 61659 61664 61810 62546 62597 62604 67234 68656



Yarmouth Vauxhall

11103 62511 62517 62524 62544 62580 62613 68628



Yarmouth Beach

43094 43157 43158 43159 43160 43161 61530 62611 65581 65586 68214 68651 68905


Norwich

43147 61042 61043 61045 61046 61050 61249 61317 61514 61520 61535 61545 61572 61577 61634 61877 61918 61939 61957 61971 61989 62032 62040 62510 62523 62555 62556 62564 62577 62586 62592 62593 62605 64644 64674 64761 64802 64900 64913 65388 65519 65537 65469 65557 65566 65570 65573 65588 67229 67366 67707 67717 68516 68555 68640 68641 68642 68645 68899 68924 69690 69706 69707 69708 70007 70009 70012 70013 70035 70036 E79034 E79037 E79253 E79039 E79042 E79258 E79044 E79260 E78045 E79261 E79047 E79263 E79049 E79265 E79051 E79267 E79054 E79270 E79056 E79272



15th April 1956


Peterborough Spital Bridge

41053 42062 42577 43127 44097 44113 44231 44247 44518 44521 47282 47306 48102 48103 48107 48757 49198 61207 61232 61567 62551 62609 64723 64789 64901 64951 67365 90063 90129 90447



New England

13127 13128 13129 13131 43058 43059 43060 43063 43064 43066 43084 43087 43088 43142 47429 60064 60504 60505 60508 60513 60514 60520 60809 60826 60829 60842 60850 60852 60853 60854 60866 60867 60875 60924 60941 61005 61070 61073 61095 61113 61122 61204 61205 61325 61391 61449 61766 63585 63679 63965 63971 63982 64171 64172 64176 64180 64184 64185 64189 64192 64198 64207 64211 64216 64217 64220 64224 64231 64246 64265 64272 64278 64279 64896 64902 67352 67357 67380 67392 68626 68635 68793 68817 68828 68840 90028 90034 90073 90093 90096 90151 90156 90165 90169 90191 90239 90246 90253 90275 90279 90305 90349 90428 90454 90492 90494 90500 90514 90528 90554 90559 90594 90613 90636 90683 90709 90730 92011 92030 92031 92032 92033 92035 92036 92037 92039 92072 92075



March

13065 13130 15000 15001 15002 60830 60858 60899 60948 60954 61125 61266 61377 61379 61426 61452 61466 61619 61620 61627 61635 61637 61641 61802 61811 61812 61815 61816 61820 61826 61827 61835 61860 61864 61866 61868 61873 61886 61887 61888 61895 61907 61929 61940 61946 61947 61948 62014 62016 62018 62020 62032 62033 62038 62040 62051 62053 62066 62068 62069 62070 62529 62542 62548 62589 63799 63899 63937 64640 64642 64648 64655 64661 64678 64679 64690 64692 64697 64699 64751 64765 64773 64831 64834 64879 64905 65356 65474 65503 65504 65513 65515 65531 65538 65556 65571 65572 65577 68603 90079 90144 90200 90293 90301 90469 90480 90550 90569 90602 90608 90618 90647 90674 90732 92044 92069 92073 92067 92076

















Trip to NE England 25th and 26th August 1956


Sunderland

43055 63439 64940 65662 65785 65798 65817 65823 65833 65836 65840 65841 65847 65850 65856 65871 65872 65873 65878 65892 67294 67297 67298 67318 67333 68016 68017 68024 68041 68058 68698 68704 69002 69007 69101 69857 69874


Tyne Dock

63387 63437 63460 63463 63465 63467 63473 63474 63712 63755 63856 64871 65645 65666 65669 65670 65680 65713 65717 68265 68266 68706 68729 69008 69093 69106 69108 69390 69782 69920 90026 90045 90445 90611 92060 92062 92064 92065 92098


Borough Gardens

61319 61321 63342 63346 63350 63354 63358 63384 63386 63402 63408 63431 63434 63458 64700 64707 64713 64846 64851 64921 64926 64931 64936 65657 65697 65700 65702 67246 67248 67326 67329 68287 68316 68699 68705 68728 68730


Blaydon

42072 43056 43057 43071 60143 60882 60939 60941 61002 62002 62006 62010 62021 62023 62024 62025 62026 62027 62028 62029 62030 63356 63363 63376 63381 63385 63390 63394 63413 63432 63441 63461 63462 63464 63470 63471 63472 64812 64816 64842 64849 64858 65039 65117 67265 67636 67683 68010 68035 68036 68038 68059 68273 68278 68731 69024 69025 69026 77011 77014


Percy Main

13243 63353 65780 65784 65791 65795 65796 65799 65806 65807 65809 65812 65813 65814 65821 65825 65826 65831 65837 65842 65852 65858 65864 68263


South Blyth

67277 67281 67320 67323 67340 67341 65696 65727 65781 65808 65810 65815 65822 65824 65834 65862 65877 68408 68424 68431


North Blyth

63391 63398 63399 63403 63428 65706 65783 65786 65789 65792 65797 65801 65811 65819 65828 65851 65863 65867 65880 65889 68397 68399 68402 68405 68417 68426 68427


Alnmouth

60057 62360 62383 64868


Tweedmouth

60805 60806 60808 60816 60860 60926 60932 61014 61025 61099 61241 61901 61969 61986 62375 62709 64711 64813 64843 64844 64917 64925 64941 65078 65091 65099 68682 68725

A chap i knew had some logs nad was adamant that they are useless so he would burn them. I managed to photocopy one book from 1966.And one ay found out they went back to 1922!!! Mostly LNWR/LMS/BR but he did go on shed trips country wide

As it happens the threat never materialised and i now have them. There are big gaps in the war/pre war years ,as his parents donated them to the 'war effort' when he was away fighting the hun. But he was UK landbased in the RAF and has many logs of his travels to/from various airfields.

One day i will finish the spreadsheet of all spreadsheets

Wow, that sounds great.

My father was a keen trainspotter in the 1930s, but his notes were thrown out while he was away during WW2. I always find this very depressing, as pre-war spotting notes would have been priceless, especially as he lived by the M&GN and would have seen many of their older locomotives which seemed to be quite a random collection.

I have seen a few sets of notes on the internet from around 1936, but I think they might have been on the old Fotopic site and vanished with it.

I have quite a lot from the 1950s/60s but they are in faded pencil and take a good deal of effort to transcribe.

Skegness station arrivals on August Bank Holiday 1960

61144 + 43157 (from) Leicester Belgrave Road
61826 Shirebrook
61870 Basford North
61142 Leicester Belgrave Road
61767 Nottingham Victoria
61339 Leeds
61852 Derby Friargate
DMU Lincoln
61391 Kings Cross
61967 Sheffield
61285 Leicester Belgrave Road
61177 Nottingham Victoria
61310 Sheffield
DMU Grantham
61899 Bradford
61214 Manchester Central
61384 Enfield Chase
61393 Leeds
61837 Sheffield Midland
61313 Leicester Belgrave Road
61947 Kidsgrove
61888 Manchester London Road
61042 Kings Norton
DMU Lincoln
61247 Derby Friargate