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The LNER Encyclopedia • B16s and other LNER locos between Ilkley and Skipton
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B16s and other LNER locos between Ilkley and Skipton

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:08 pm
by Tom F
Evening all, I realize I've not been around for a bit :oops:

I have seen numerous pictures of B16s around the Ilkley area, and on route to Skipton in the 1950's era.... my question is, B16s in this area...where would they be from, Neville Hill?

Also what other exLNER locos worked through this way, pics of J39s seem quite common too :)

Cheers

Tom

Re: B16s and other LNER locos between Ilkley and Skipton

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:56 pm
by 52D
Didnt they concentrate the B16s at york just before the war?

Re: B16s and other LNER locos between Ilkley and Skipton

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:01 am
by 50C
By 1950 the B16's were shared between York(which I think had all the 'rebuilds' among its allocation) and Neville Hill.

50c

Re: B16s and other LNER locos between Ilkley and Skipton

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:40 am
by Blink Bonny
Mirfield (of all places) ended up with a few of them in the late '50s. Initally Raven originals then rebuilds.

Gave the place an unusual air.

Re: B16s and other LNER locos between Ilkley and Skipton

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:35 pm
by Tom F
Thats very helpful gents, thankyou :)

So Neville Hill had them with Mirfield into the late 50s?

Re: B16s and other LNER locos between Ilkley and Skipton

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:19 pm
by Bryan
Where there any in the Harrogate area?
If so they may well have worked to Skipton via Arthington - Otley - Ilkley.

Re: B16s and other LNER locos between Ilkley and Skipton

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:30 pm
by 50C
Two B16's were based at Starbeck(Harrogate)-61442(jun53 to may55) and 61478(may55 to jun59).Post 1950 a few others spent time at Heaton,Mirfield,Hull Dairycoates,Blaydon,Selby and Scarbro.However from 1950 to withdrawel the vast majority spent their time at York and Neville Hill.


50c

Re: B16s and other LNER locos between Ilkley and Skipton

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:51 am
by 37b
I remember as a lad at Guiseley in the early 50's that B16's regularly used to work weekend specials from Leeds City to I think the Middlesborough area. These were always Neville Hill engines.
I don't think that they would go via Ilkley though. Probably turn off at Menston Junction to Otley and on to Harrogate.
I've got a soft spot for these engines!
The only other regular LNER locos were the Hunts that used to work the Harrogate to Bradford business trains which I used to catch to get to school in Bradford.
Dave

Re: B16s and other LNER locos between Ilkley and Skipton

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:03 am
by Greedy Boards
Hi All

just been perusing Yeadon Vol 17, and the Register records that B16s were concentrated at Neville Hill from 1949 upto 1961, and at Mirfield between 1960 - 1963. Any B16s seen at Ilkley & Skipton would most likely have come from these two locations.

in regards to other LNER locomotives in that neck of the woods, certainly have images of Gresley J39 0-6-0s plying their trade on the line near Embsay, and believe that Worsdell G5s 0-4-4Ts would have operated out of Ilkley at some time in their career.

Regards

Greedy Boards

Re: B16s and other LNER locos between Ilkley and Skipton

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:50 pm
by kudu
I think the first B16s I saw were on Neasden shed. They were in the company of assorted B1s from exotic locations in the Far North, like Dairycoates or Neville Hill.

It only happened once a year - RL Cup Final at Wembley.

Kudu

Re: B16s and other LNER locos between Ilkley and Skipton

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:01 pm
by rob237
In mid-1955, all B16's were allocated to either York or Neville Hill, except for...
61445 Scarborough (50E), 61474 Selby (50C) and the aforementioned 61478 Starbeck (50D).
Cheers
Robt P.

Re: B16s and other LNER locos between Ilkley and Skipton

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:40 pm
by Autocar Publicity
The web-site of the Embsay and Bolton Abbey Railway has some historical photos as well as more recent preservation era views, http://www.embsayboltonabbeyrailway.org ... togal.html may be of interest.

Re: B16s and other LNER locos between Ilkley and Skipton

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:54 pm
by Tom F
Thanks for the help everyone.

B16 has to be my favourite pregrouping designed loco...especially the Gresley and Thompson valve gear ones. Shame one never was preserved :(

Re: B16s and other LNER locos between Ilkley and Skipton

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:44 pm
by 52D
Like you Tom i have a soft spot for NER 4-6-0s although i think the earlier ones looked more elegant. I love the look of the B13s.

Re: B16s and other LNER locos between Ilkley and Skipton

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:12 pm
by Boris
B16s yes my second favourite loco but nly cos we ever harly got one.

Dream to ride on so smooth, dream to fire never ran short of steam,
dream loco except the unrebuilt with the low cab side windows.