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I AM INTERESTED IN CREATING A3 HUMOURIST IN OO AS AT CIRCA 1938 - WITH KYLCHAP AND SMALL SMOKE DEFLECTORS.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INFO ON THESE UNUSUAL DEFLECTORS ?

I AM AWARE SOME OF YOU WILL THINK THIS CRAZY BUT MY ERA IS JUST PRE-WAR 2

THANKS IN ANTICIPATION

ROY NICKLIN

roynicklin wrote:I AM INTERESTED IN CREATING A3 HUMOURIST IN OO AS AT CIRCA 1938 - WITH KYLCHAP AND SMALL SMOKE DEFLECTORS.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INFO ON THESE UNUSUAL DEFLECTORS ?

I AM AWARE SOME OF YOU WILL THINK THIS CRAZY BUT MY ERA IS JUST PRE-WAR 2

THANKS IN ANTICIPATION

ROY NICKLIN

iT IS MY BELIEVE THAT THESE WERE THE SAME AS FITTED TO 60048, 60055, 60061 & 60112 IN THE LATE 1950's.
IF SO THEY ARE AVAILABLE FROM :- Ralph Jackson,
4, Dartmouth Road,
Wyken,
Coventry, CV2 3DQ

REGARDS.

I don't know whether Ralph Jackson is still in the bits business as his nameplates etc. passed to Jim Grindlay. You can make a set of these deflectors yourself out of brass shim or even Plastikard.

I've done quite a few A1/A3 customisations myself but as yet have not tackled Humorist. See my other posts in the model railway section of this forum for more information.

I can email you a drawing of Humorist with small deflectors if you need it - send me a PM. Note that she had a diagram 94HP boiler at the time with round dome and a plain chimney.

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[quote="Saint Johnstoun"]I don't know whether Ralph Jackson is still in the bits business as his nameplates etc. passed to Jim Grindlay. You can make a set of these deflectors yourself out of brass shim or even Plastikard.

I've done quite a few A1/A3 customisations myself but as yet have not tackled Humorist. See my other posts in the model railway section of this forum for more information.

I can email you a drawing of Humorist with small deflectors if you need it - send me a PM. Note that she had a diagram 94HP boiler at the time with round dome and a plain chimney.

lner-models-t1624s270.html[/quote

Ralph Jackson is still in the bits business as I have purchased bits from him quite recently.
Regards,Del

Further study shows that the deflectors fitted to Humorist pre-war were not the same as those used post-war. The pre-war ones had a fold where they were attached to the smokebox, whereas I presume that the post-war ones were simply tack welded onto the smokebox. The post-war ones were also at a sharper angle.

There is also the state of 2751 with sloping smokebox, stovepipe chimney, and still (almost) the same small deflectors.

Roy,

I think these are the smoke deflectors you're after.
Humorist was used for many of the experiments in 32-34 and then again pre-war (38) and post war (47). The photos are of a model John was working on in 2007. As you can see he didn't quite finish it but it is an excellent model and runs perfectly.
Of the many he completed I think this was his finest.

If you need further info the 1938 smoke lifters are included on Isinglass drawing 332 and the other variants on drawing 331.

Andy

roynicklin wrote:I AM AWARE SOME OF YOU WILL THINK THIS CRAZY BUT MY ERA IS JUST PRE-WAR 2
ROY NICKLIN

If modelling an unusual loco, or modelling by unusual methods, classifies you as crazy, then I must be absolutely barking (no need for others to confirm, thanks). Late thirties seems like a good era to model if you ask me, and these days (until a certain generation moves on I suppose) late 30s models are a very welcome relief from the repetitive products of former 50s/early60s train spotters.

It could be worth giving Rural Railways a bell because they have all sorts of stuff there.

You can see my post-war version of Humorist elsewhere on these forums.

Hi,
Hornby did produce a model of Humourist with double Kalchipe. It did not have the small smoke deflecters you are asking about.

I also model LNER pre World War 2. I think it is the best period to model.

They look like they would be very simple to make and to apply to a Hornby A3 model. Even I could do it and I'm crap!

Not strictly in keeping with the OP, but this is my take on Humorist in '56 when she was a not infrequent visitor to my beloved Waverley Route!

Dave of 68A.