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The LNER Encyclopedia • Light Engine crash
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Light Engine crash

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:54 am
by Marx
I have just found an old newspaper( Daily Express 1950s, the last digit is torn off the date 195?) in a house I am helping to renovate....There is a prominent photo on the front page of an A4? light engine on its side outside of what could be Wood Green tunnesl.Can any of you knowledgeable folks throw any light on this accident?
Apologies for being so vague, the paper was in very poor condition .........

Many thanks
Marx

Re: Light Engine crash

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:52 pm
by Coboman
Did the W1 end up on its side when it derailed on points?

Re: Light Engine crash

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:22 am
by Saint Johnstoun
The W1 derailment was at Peterborough!

I will consult my library and try and come up with an answer

Re: Light Engine crash

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:49 am
by 52A
Could it be Welwyn, 7th Jan 1957 with 60520?

Re: Light Engine crash

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:22 pm
by hq1hitchin
The only light engine on its side that springs to mind is the L1 which got tipped over as a result of the rear end collision at Hitchin South in November 1958. Step forward my old mate the tired signalman :) No tunnels, though

http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/docsum ... ?docID=509

Re: Light Engine crash

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:37 pm
by giner
52A wrote:Could it be Welwyn, 7th Jan 1957 with 60520?
'Fraid not. Nearest tunnel would be about 4 miles away at Welwyn North.

Re: Light Engine crash

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:07 pm
by adge
Photo here of the 60700 derailment at Peterborough 1.9.55

www.westwoodworks.net/HowItWas/​TheFire ... /index.htm

from various reports - 60700 derailed a few yards beyond the facing points of Westwood Junction due to a complete fracture of the right frame plate of th engine's bogie. The loco tipped on its left hand side under the arches of Westwood Bridge. Most of the coaches remained upright.

Presumably the coaches were towed away fairly swiftly and from subsequent photos it could therefore be assumed it was a light engine.

The line was open again by the following morning.

Need the Daily Express photo for comparison.

Re: Light Engine crash

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:26 pm
by Coboman
That link dont work matey
Edit:-
is this the picture?
Image

Re: Light Engine crash

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:48 am
by Dave
Link worked fine for me...Just needed a bid of looking for.

Go to The Fire Brigade
scroll down the page to The Westwood Junction Rail Crash 1955
then click on the blue Outside Views.

Re: Light Engine crash

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:39 am
by adge
cut and paste then coboman, cut and paste - the answer to most things I find.

Judging by the above photo 60700 tipped over some distance from the bridge - hardly against the arches is it? The reports a touch inaccurate then....

Re: Light Engine crash

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:30 pm
by Coboman
Bet the bobby s**t himself seeing 60700 sliding on its side towards his signalbox! :lol: :lol: :lol: :shock:

Re: Light Engine crash

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:44 am
by Blink Bonny
Didn't 60700 demolish the 'box steps?

Close. Very close. Too close in fact!

Re: Light Engine crash

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:48 pm
by jukebox
Full details are found here: http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/docume ... od1955.pdf :wink:

Regards

Jukebox

Re: Light Engine crash

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:25 pm
by Blink Bonny
Fascinating - the 'box steps were undamaged. Still, I hope the railway paid for the bobby's new underpants.

Re: Light Engine crash

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:22 pm
by barry
Date does not fit but 60508 Duke of Rothesay A2/1 became derailed in Barnet tunnel and ended up on its side just north of New Southgate stn on 17th July 1948 The train was 19.50 Ex Edinburgh 16th July 1948. The fireman was killed in this accident. Full details in official report can be found and picture in RA site.