PAINTING DETAILS OF FITTINGS

[FLYINGFISH]

Hi

The handrails on '4472' for the tender as well as the loco by the cab and around the boiler as causing a little confusion for the painting of my model. All the pics I look from 1928, give or take, some months look as though these were not painted the usual green but are in a silver/grey colour.

And then the ejector pipe (down the right side of the loco/boiler, when viewed from in the cab) also looks as though it is in what should be it's natural copper finish, the fitting as well (brass I think).

Can anyone please shed some light on this topic for me?

Best Regards,

Flyingfish

[2512silverfox]

You really have to look at individual locos at specific times of their lives. 4472 was tarted up for the non-stop service and handrails were unpainted and polished; likewise the steam pipe and wheel rims. A1/A3s normally came out of Doncaster with painted wheel rime, handrails and steam pipes. However it was not unknown for shed staff to create their own embellishments so that a good clear photo is imperative.

[Malcolm]

It might not be any help, but here is my Locomotive Publishing postcard of Flying Scotsman (colour painting).
I'm sorry I don't know the date of the painting, but maybe someone else can shed some light.

Malcolm

[jwealleans]

Isn't that the condition she was in for (and after?) the 1923 exhibition at Wembley?

[Postman Prat]

Can anyone please shed some light on this topic for me?

Flyingfish

I suspect that the shedding of light is the root cause of the query!!

Almost certainly what appears to be bare/polished metal is nothing more than a reflection of the sky on the handrails, which are normally painted. Handrails were polished only for special events, such as Scotsman at Wembley, William Shakespear at the Festival of Britain etc.

Hope my suggestion helps

[52D]

Funnily enough the effect of light was the general consensus when i posted a similar query regarding SPEARMINT at Hawick.

[coachmann]

Handrails in LNER days were invariably painted body colour, that is apple green on A1/A3 Pacifics. As commented already, there were occasions where handrails were polished, either locally or for exhibition. The knuckle end on the vacuum ejector pipe where it turned to enter the smokebox side was often polished brass.

In BR days some locos had handrails painted black instead of GW green. They might all have been black but it is difficult to judge.

[FLYINGFISH]

Hello All

Thank you very much for the replies, certainly helped out.
As I am use to doing aircraft models and colours this whole
set up is still a learning curve for me. I am a aircraft structures
engineer by trade.

Building '4472' for my son, who also relays his thanks.

Regards,

[StevieG]

Of no help to FLYINGFISH's query, I know, but in case anyone's interested, I reckon the second pic down shows her on the Up Fast between Finsbury Park and Holloway, just after passing over Bridge 12 over the four 'low level' lines [Down Canonbury (passenger), the Canonbury Goods lines, and the Up Carriage ('Creep-up') : the Distant signals on the left look like some of those on Fins.Pk. No.3 box's gantry], in which case she could well have been virtually coasting - (Thinks : Does anyone else think her exhaust looks more like painting than photographic? )

[third-rail]

Of no help to FLYINGFISH's query, I know, but in case anyone's interested, I reckon the second pic down shows her on the Up Fast between Finsbury Park and Holloway, just after passing over Bridge 12 over the four 'low level' lines [Down Canonbury (passenger), the Canonbury Goods lines, and the Up Carriage ('Creep-up') : the Distant signals on the left look like some of those on Fins.Pk. No.3 box's gantry], in which case she could well have been virtually coasting - (Thinks : Does anyone else think her exhaust looks more like painting than photographic? )

im sure it is painted like also the steam under the bogie of the leading coach, the picture may have been posed then made to look that its at speed.