Hull-Manchester Express

[earlswood nob]

Good morning all

I read smewhere that an Aspinall Highflyer Atlantic was stabled at Hull to work the morning express to Manchester. Would the coaching stock be LNER or LYR (LMS).

Any ideas?

Malcolm

[jwealleans]

I don't know specifically, Malcolm, but the other intercompany workings I know about usually had a set from each which alternated.

[WTTReprinter]

What era are you looking at?
Rob Carroll has some Grouping era CWN, including a 1935 LNER Cheshire Lines. This shows two circuits Hull-Liverpool-Manchester-Harwich (Stable for next day) Harwich-Manchester-Liverpool-Hull, then a Hull-Liverpool out and back.
He also has some early 50's items in his NER collection and those only show Hull-Liverpool; no Manchesters.
If you don't know where it is, this is the link;
https://brcoachingstock.groups.io/g/mai ... e/86476186
I don't think you need to be a member to view the messages.

[JASd17]

Liverpool, Manchester and Hull workings are a complicated topic. WTTR has already commented on the wanderings of the Harwich set.

They did not work with alternate sets like the Liverpool to Newcastle trains.

I suggest that this is because there were various routes they could take. I wonder if the high flyer would use the L&Y route via the Calder Valley, that had a LMS set in 1932.

I am particularly interested in the Hull area, but photos of the trans-Pennine trains are not easy to find before WWII. Eric Treacy and Kenneth Field did a much better job into the 1950s.

John

[earlswood nob]

Good morning all

Thanks for the replies, which have got me thinking!

I have a copy of the 1922 Bradshaw and cannot find for certain which is the route for the Hull- Manchester Train.

I'm guessing by saying that it did travel via the Calder Valley.

Thanks again

Malcolm

[JASd17]

In the May 1934 Bradshaw, the 9.15am departure from Hull, went via Goole, Wakefield and Todmorden to Manchester Victoria, and then on to Liverpool Exchange, LMS stock.

There was also a 9.0am departure via Leeds, Huddersfield, Manchester Exchange and Liverpool Lime St, that train used LNER stock in 1932.

John

[earlswood nob]

WOW

Thanks John for all the info.

Malcolm