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Ex-GNR D 122 and D 164B carriages question

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 7:09 pm
by Atso
Hello all,

A quick question if I may to help with my attempt to model the 5pm King's Cross to Peterborough service. Would I be right in thinking that the D 122 and D164B carriages would share a common external arrangement with the more common D 121 and D 164A carriages (other than the differences in width)?

Many thanks

Re: Ex-GNR D 122 and D 164B carriages question

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:35 pm
by JASd17
The D121 and 164A have three First class compartments @ 7ft 2in each.

The D122 and 164B have only two Firsts.

The D122 had 4-a-side seating in first class, the D121 3-a-side.

The external arrangements are therefore slightly different, including the panels above the waist.

John

Re: Ex-GNR D 122 and D 164B carriages question

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:56 pm
by Atso
Thank you John. I think it'll be best to obtain the relevant set of Isinglass drawings rather than trying to work them out using the Campling book then.

Re: Ex-GNR D 122 and D 164B carriages question

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 9:13 pm
by JASd17
Hi Steve,

Yes, I think you are right. John Edgson did drawings for the variations. I will look for photos as well, sometimes things were not quite as the GAs showed.

The differences would be apparent in 2mm scale.

John

Re: Ex-GNR D 122 and D 164B carriages question

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 7:58 am
by Atso
Yes please and thanks once again John.