J39s on the Scarborough & Whitby line

[markindurham]

We know that at least one J39 traversed the S & W as part of a snowplough pair in 1947, but were they actually officially barred from the route? Would appreciate thoughts on this, and details of any workings. Thank you.

Mark

[WTTReprinter]

My Summer 1953 RA book for the NER quotes:
J39 locos: RA6
Scarborough (Gallows Close) to Whitby (Prospect Hill Jcn): RA 2.

Additionally B1, D2, G5, N13, A5, A8, J25, J26, J27, J73, J36, D20, D49, V3, V1, L1 & LMR 4MTT 2-6-4 (LMR Standard - Taper boilers) were also permitted.

So it would appear those J39s were well out of group! Mind you, some of those permitted were RA5: so much for RA2.

[markindurham]

Thanks for that - should J24s have been on the list as well? Otherwise that was 2 supposedly barred locomotives together on that snowplough job!

I wonder if any D2s, N13s, J73s or J36s actually worked the route?

Edit - the J24s were all gone by 1953, hence their omission from the list...

[markindurham]

Well, it seems that J39s were cleared for the route again from the mid-1930s, although photos of them, other than 4818 on the 1947 snowplough duties, haven't yet turned up.

[DOCJACOB]

J36 is interesting. Vaguely recall one was in Malton area during WW2

Can’t find reference to confirm at present.

Weird place, and long way from home, to find ex NBR locomotive.

[rockinjohn]

I think the J39 class got banned from Passenger work for having tendency to roll when running boiler first in the NE&Scottish Regions, a bad derailment @ speed occured on the Silloth Branch, the crew &operating staff blamed the PW staff, who in turn blamed the driver for exceeding the Branch line Speed limit which possibly was Carlisle Canal class member &crew, their were other derailments elsewhere before &after that to led to this decision,not to say even after being banned I'm sure class members may have worked passenger trains(nothing else available)) either tender or boiler first & @ a much reduced turn of speed.