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Unusual LNER(?) brake van, any ideas as to its use?

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:17 pm
by Nova
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it seems to be an LNER long wheel base brake van with extended varandas

Re: Unusual LNER(?) brake van, any ideas as to its use?

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:48 pm
by jwealleans
Have Shildon customised it to use on their brake van shuttles?

Hard to tell whether it's LNER or BR, it's obviously been heavily knocked about either way.

Re: Unusual LNER(?) brake van, any ideas as to its use?

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:44 am
by Rlangham
Standard 20 ton brake van (as far as I can see) but with extensions for passenger services on the Shildon demonstration line

Re: Unusual LNER(?) brake van, any ideas as to its use?

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:15 pm
by D2100
jwealleans wrote:
Hard to tell whether it's LNER or BR, it's obviously been heavily knocked about either way.
Generally has a late BR feel, not least because of the roller bearings, which I doubt have been fitted for its new role.

Re: Unusual LNER(?) brake van, any ideas as to its use?

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:35 pm
by Robpulham
It started life as a more standard brake van (I can't remember what) we saw it in the workshop at Shildon being modified for brake van rides

Re: Unusual LNER(?) brake van, any ideas as to its use?

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:55 pm
by 65447
Pennine MC wrote:
jwealleans wrote:
Hard to tell whether it's LNER or BR, it's obviously been heavily knocked about either way.
Generally has a late BR feel, not least because of the roller bearings, which I doubt have been fitted for its new role.
And the vertical handrails are one-piece, but could be replacements. However, the LNER vans had this style of RCH axleguard whereas the BR vans had plate axleguards with a circular hole cut to the left and slightly above the axlebox.

A hybrid conversion, updated for the new purpose? Extended verandah sides, doors rather than just the bars in the openings, but a suggestion that the support brackets might have been for the shorter LNER stepboards?

Maybe the next time someone is at Shildon they'll take a peek at whatever builder's plates are on the solebars?

Re: Unusual LNER(?) brake van, any ideas as to its use?

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:21 pm
by drmditch
Well, I was there this morning. There are no plates at all on the south (?) side.
I took some pictures, but they don't show much more than can already be seen above.

When I am back there next week I'll see if I can find someone who knows more about it.
I forgot to ask today.

Re: Unusual LNER(?) brake van, any ideas as to its use?

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:59 pm
by 1H was 2E
2 minutes on the web to identify. Railway Heritage Register Wagon Survey, accessed through Vintage Carriages Trust website; search on location "NRM Shildon" and it produces B953602, with a photo of this vehicle and its history.

Re: Unusual LNER(?) brake van, any ideas as to its use?

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:40 pm
by drmditch
1H was 2E wrote:2 minutes on the web to identify. Railway Heritage Register Wagon Survey, accessed through Vintage Carriages Trust website; search on location "NRM Shildon" and it produces B953602, with a photo of this vehicle and its history.
The link is .... here....