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Accident pic identification

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:39 pm
by 52D
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I found this pic a while ago, i think the loco is a n NER 901 class but have no idea of the location. Felling, Marshal Meadows and Morpeth have been suggested and ruled out. Over to the Forum.

Re: Accident pic identification

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:51 pm
by Mickey
Sorry can't help with identifying the location 52D but where ever it is or was it's a right ruddy pile up thats for sure!!.

Mickey

Re: Accident pic identification

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:31 pm
by 52D
Yes Micky thats why i initially thought of the first Morpeth crash but after running it past 52A he quickly discounted the three locations i suggested. Morpeth is one of the 2 sites in Northumberland on the ECML that have had multiple crashes and incidents the other being Goswick.

Re: Accident pic identification

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:12 pm
by 4812
It's Northallerton in 1894. The locos were 901 Class No 905 and Class M No 1622. The photo seems to have been taken half-way through the clearance, with the two cranes having lifted No 1622 on to its wheels again. There's a LPC card (No1640 I think) showing the scene earlier, when No 1622 was still on its RHS with a battered coach sticking up above its tender and a Pullman to one side on top of wreckage. A helmeted PC has his eye on the photographer.

Re: Accident pic identification

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:20 am
by 52D
Thanks for that i will see if the railway archive site has an accident report for it.

Re: Accident pic identification

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:12 am
by Mickey
4812 wrote:It's Northallerton in 1894.
A fairly complicated accident (if you try and read through the full Inspecting Officer's report) with the report running into very many pages with many witness statements included with the Inspecting Officer's final conclusions running into 6 pages alone when usually a final conclusion by the Inspecting Officer was usually summed up in a few paragraphs or a page.

Apparently a guard on one of the trains involved in the collision unfortunately had his "head cut off" to quote the Inspecting Officer's words.

If the above photograph was taken 'half way through the clear up' then there must have been a 'mountain of wreckage' initially??.

Mickey

Re: Accident pic identification

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:10 pm
by 4812
The illustration in Railway Archive seems to show a view at about the same time as the photo above, with three cranes lifting No 1622, two at the front and one at the cab-end. Most of the debris has indeed gone, and the Pullman 'Iona' is back at rail-level with its essential structure intact - wooden Pullmans were strong and did not 'telescope'.